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Suggest the WICG as a way to propose new features. #245

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The WICG can provide initial discussion of a feature and dispatch between the many
available repositories on which one could file the issue.

Inspired by https://twitter.com/troglotit/status/1109577257738227712.

May help with @gsnedders' whatwg/participate.whatwg.org#37 but doesn't fix it.

It can provide initial discussion of a feature and dispatch between the many
available repositories on which one could file the issue.

Inspired by https://twitter.com/troglotit/status/1109577257738227712.
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domenic commented Mar 24, 2019

It makes more sense to me to fix this sentence to generalize whatwg/html to "the standard's issue tracker". And maybe say "if you're not sure what standard your idea impacts, use whatwg/meta. If your idea is outside the scope of WHATWG standards entirely, use WICG."

I think it's generally valuable to take things that impact WHATWG standards directly to the WHATWG community that is working on that standard, instead of to a Discourse forum which has uneven WHATWG-community participation.

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I like "the standard's issue tracker" and will make that change later today. I think it's often difficult for people outside our community to know which standard their thing is supposed to affect, so I'll try to word something that suggests that either whatwg/meta or the WICG can be used to dispatch problem statements to particular specifications?

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@domenic: "If your idea is outside the scope of WHATWG standards entirely, use WICG." — That's not immediately obvious if you don't spend enough time around here, IMO.

This point in the process is too early to guess that the solution will end up in HTML.
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Thinking about this more, it doesn't make sense to try to guess the standard the solution is eventually going to land in, at a point where we're insisting that people should only have a problem statement and not a proposed solution.

domenic added a commit to whatwg/participate.whatwg.org that referenced this pull request Mar 27, 2019
Fixes #37.

This will be stronger if we also fix the FAQ entry per whatwg/whatwg.org#245 (comment).
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domenic commented Mar 27, 2019

I think in a lot of cases people do know what standard something would land in. E.g. if they're suggesting a new way of fetching things, they might know the fetch standard is the place to be. Or if they're talking about addressing a deficiency with a HTML tag, they might know HTML is the place to be. If they're concerned about a lack of capabilities of notifications, it makes sense to file the issue on whatwg/notifications. Etc.

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cwilso commented Mar 27, 2019

I'd suggest that if people aren't spending enough time around WHATWG to know that their proposal belongs there, it's not a failure mode to suggest going to WICG - they'd be steered back in the end if WHATWG is more appropriate. WICG is intended to be a reasonable home for incubation of new features for anything, whether they end up in W3C or not.

I agree with @domenic that when people know where a feature would land, proposing it there (in whatwg/notifications or wherever) is probably the shortest path to success, of course.

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Done, thanks.

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domenic commented Mar 5, 2024

I feel like this has been overtaken by https://whatwg.org/stages ; WDYT?

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annevk commented Mar 5, 2024

Although maybe we should update the FAQ to account for that.

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