Remove the missing spoken.flac file in unfa - Spoken

[Rossmaxx]

fixes #3167

I would appreciate if anyone could check the file for upgrade routines for me as i can't check it by myself.

[zonkmachine]

As I recall it the sample was left out for a reason. Taken from memory, I believe you were supposed to drop in a spoken message of your own device. Artistic stuff. If you want to remove it you should perhaps ask the original creator @unfa.
Isn't there a sample with silence we can drop in as a replacement of the missing file?

[tresf]

As I recall it the sample was left out for a reason. Taken from memory, I believe you were supposed to drop in a spoken message of your own device. Artistic stuff. If you want to remove it you should perhaps ask the original creator @unfa. Isn't there a sample with silence we can drop in as a replacement of the missing file?

No, it's just missing because we can't bundle samples into projects yet. Instructions for obtaining the sample are explained here: https://lmms.io/lsp/?action=show&file=4929

This really needs to be fixed.

[tresf]

I would appreciate if anyone could check the file for upgrade routines for me as i can't check it by myself

The LSP says 0.4.14-rc, created for 1.0.0. Editing it with an old version could satisfy any paranoia; or attempt to decompress, edit, and recompress without using LMMS. 😈

[Rossmaxx]

Just a doubt, would it make sense to add the missing spoken.flac file into the factory samples and change the project file to point to that file instead?

[tresf]

Just a doubt, would it make sense to add the missing spoken.flac file into the factory samples and change the project file to point to that file instead?

This was discussed 10 years ago and we didn't want one-off samples added. Somehow it snuck past us.

[tresf]

fixes #3167

I would appreciate if anyone could check the file for upgrade routines for me as i can't check it by myself.

What version did you use to strip it out? Visiting upgrade routines might be too much work for a single project.

[Rossmaxx]

We didn't want one-off samples added.

IMO, it's better to have complete projects, even if it means one-off samples. Also, the old sample library is deprecated anyway so shouldn't be much of a concern. I'll think of adding the sample once @unfa approves.

[Rossmaxx]

What version did you use to strip it out?

The latest nightly. I asked someone to check out just to make sure i messed nothing up.

[tresf]

We didn't want one-off samples added.

IMO, it's better to have complete projects, even if it means one-off samples. Also, the old sample library is deprecated anyway so shouldn't be much of a concern. I'll think of adding the sample once @unfa approves.

We're not adding it.

[Rossmaxx]

We're not adding it.

Alrite then.

[tresf]

What version did you use to strip it out?

The latest nightly. I asked someone to check out just to make sure i messed nothing up.

That's where your risk lies. 😂 You can export to mmp and do a diff but they have a tendency to not maintain parameter ordering so it's harder to find differences on larger projects.

I would advise to use 0.4.15 or 1.0.x and remove it. Worst case, a newer stable version.

[tresf]

What version did you use to strip it out?

The latest nightly. I asked someone to check out just to make sure i messed nothing up.

That's where your risk lies. 😂 You can export to mmp and do a diff but they have a tendency to not maintain parameter ordering so it's harder to find differences on larger projects.

I would advise to use 0.4.15 or 1.0.x and remove it. Worst case, a newer stable version.

So 0.4.15 has an error opening this file, says a plugin is missing. Trying 1.0.3, which is the last stable 1.0.x release. Edit: Same issue, investigating...

Oh, nevermind, it's because I'm using the LSP version. This bug was already fixed

• unfa-Spoken : Unknown LADSPA plugin amp_gcia_oa requested. #232

[zonkmachine]

As I recall it the sample was left out for a reason...

No, it's just missing because we can't bundle samples into projects yet. Instructions for obtaining the sample are explained here: https://lmms.io/lsp/?action=show&file=4929

OK. As false memories goes, that one was elaborate.

[tresf]

I've removed the sample and I'm currently exporting the WAV with 1.0.3; I'll then compare the resulting wave to master to see how it bodes. If all goes well, I'll push the 1.0.3 patched mmpz to this branch and close this issue.

@zonkmachine I had forgotten all these years later how long exports took back then... do you remember? The song played at normal speed. 💀 💀 💀

[zonkmachine]

@zonkmachine I had forgotten all these years later how long exports took back then... do you remember? The song played at normal speed. 💀 💀 💀

I do remember this vagely but my machine back then was on the weaker side so I have nothing to compare it with. And then I downgraded to a 2011 netbook...

[tresf]

I've removed the sample and I'm currently exporting the WAV with 1.0.3; I'll then compare the resulting wave to master to see how it bodes. If all goes well, I'll push the 1.0.3 patched mmpz to this branch and close this issue.

The export suffered underruns in both exports. This is disheartening. Unfa Spoken strikes again 2024, I guess.

Well, I'm going to push this patched file. If there are regressions, we can always reopen/try to patch the xml manually.