"Loading plaque timed out"

[dkoreshkov]

Got that and a timeout when starting 8.31pre. Just once out of a hundred times--perhaps a race?
Vid mode was 400x300 sw, Linux.

[Yamagi]

Did loading the game longer than a few seconds when you got it? The clients times out if it doesn't get from it's game for 5 seconds, afair.

[dkoreshkov]

That time it took about a minute instead of a few seconds.

[dkoreshkov]

Okay, I could reproduce it. Right after starting the game, pressed F3 twice quickly.
There was the menu sound, the screen stayed blank, the console stopped at "Installation".
The game exits this state when I press F3 the third time. The console shows:
R_FindImage: can't load players/male/skin.pcx
R_FindImage: can't load players/male/grunt.pcx
R_FindImage: can't load players/male/skin_i.pcx
R_FindImage: can't load players/male/grunt.pcx
R_FindImage: can't load players/male/grunt.pcx
R_FindImage: can't load players/male/grunt_i.pcx
Allocated 20480 edgespans.

[Yamagi]

I can't reproduce it. But maybe my laptop is too fast. The problem is: Quake II has a timeout of 5 seconds. If the client doesn't get data for 5 seconds, either from the local or a remote server, the game will timeout. That can happen with very long level loading times and maybe in some corner cases even when the level loading is interrupted by something. I really don't want to change that logic, because 5 seconds were determined by id Software as enough in 1997 and they should be enough nowadays. Changes there have a high chance of unwanted side effect.

[InFerYes]

I'm getting this error, but only when loading mods (at least, that's what I think). I updated to 8.30 and after that all my mods fail to start. When I revert to 8.20, or even 7.42, the issue remains.

When I load a mod with +set game the game "loads" but doesn't render anything.

When I load a mod with +set game and +connect the game will launch properly and connect to the server as expected, confirming it's a local thing.

While I was typing this up I wanted to screenshot the game's view showing a duplicate of my desktop, but the mod finally appears to have started.

Restarting the game has the same issue:

yamagi-quake2 +set game dday +set map dday1

Yamagi Quake II v8.20
=====================
Client build options:
 + cURL HTTP downloads
 + OpenAL audio
 + Systemwide installation
Platform: Linux
Architecture: x86_64
Byte ordering: little endian

Added packfile '/home/user/.yq2/baseq2/pak0.pak' (3307 files).
Added packfile '/home/user/.yq2/baseq2/pak1.pak' (279 files).
Added packfile '/home/user/.yq2/baseq2/pak2.pak' (2 files).
Added packfile '/home/user/.yq2/dday/pak0.pak' (878 files).
Added packfile '/home/user/.yq2/dday/base_shouts.pak' (79 files).
Added packfile '/home/user/.yq2/dday/doomtown_sky.pak' (12 files).
Added packfile '/home/user/.yq2/dday/m1_beta_v1.pkz' (10 files).
Added packfile '/home/user/.yq2/dday/dday_fx.pkz' (20 files).
Added packfile '/home/user/.yq2/dday/r3tex_dday5_v.1.0.pkz' (20 files).
Added packfile '/home/user/.yq2/dday/bhmg_alpha_1.pkz' (13 files).
Added packfile '/home/user/.yq2/dday/r3tex_dday2_v.1.0.pkz' (78 files).
execing default.cfg.
Unknown command "+mlook"
couldn't exec yq2.cfg
execing config.cfg.
execing autoexec.cfg.
execing ../Settings.txt.
execing serverlist.cfg.
execing config.cfg.
execing serverlist.cfg.
No Ogg Vorbis music tracks have been found, so there will be no music.
Using '/home/user/.yq2/dday' for writing.
execing default.cfg.
Unknown command "+mlook"
You can't bind the special key "ESCAPE"!
You can't bind the special key "~"!
You can't bind the special key "`"!
couldn't exec yq2.cfg
execing config.cfg.
execing autoexec.cfg.
execing ../Settings.txt.
execing serverlist.cfg.
execing config.cfg.
execing serverlist.cfg.
Terminal supports colors: TERM='xterm-256color'
Cmd_RemoveCommand: map not added
Console initialized.

------- sound initialization -------
Loading library: libopenal.so.1
...opening OpenAL device: ok
...creating OpenAL context: ok
...making context current: ok

OpenAL settings:
AL_VENDOR: OpenAL Community
AL_RENDERER: OpenAL Soft
AL_VERSION: 1.1 ALSOFT 1.23.1
AL_EXTENSIONS: AL_EXT_ALAW AL_EXT_BFORMAT AL_EXT_DOUBLE AL_EXT_EXPONENT_DISTANCE AL_EXT_FLOAT32 AL_EXT_IMA4 AL_EXT_LINEAR_DISTANCE AL_EXT_MCFORMATS AL_EXT_MULAW AL_EXT_MULAW_BFORMAT AL_EXT_MULAW_MCFORMATS AL_EXT_OFFSET AL_EXT_source_distance_model AL_EXT_SOURCE_RADIUS AL_EXT_STATIC_BUFFER AL_EXT_STEREO_ANGLES AL_LOKI_quadriphonic AL_SOFT_bformat_ex AL_SOFTX_bformat_hoa AL_SOFT_block_alignment AL_SOFT_buffer_length_query AL_SOFT_callback_buffer AL_SOFTX_convolution_reverb AL_SOFT_deferred_updates AL_SOFT_direct_channels AL_SOFT_direct_channels_remix AL_SOFT_effect_target AL_SOFT_events AL_SOFT_gain_clamp_ex AL_SOFTX_hold_on_disconnect AL_SOFT_loop_points AL_SOFTX_map_buffer AL_SOFT_MSADPCM AL_SOFT_source_latency AL_SOFT_source_length AL_SOFT_source_resampler AL_SOFT_source_spatialize AL_SOFT_source_start_delay AL_SOFT_UHJ AL_SOFT_UHJ_ex

Available OpenAL devices:
- Built-in Audio Analog Stereo
- GP106 High Definition Audio Controller Digital Stereo (HDMI)

Current OpenAL device:
- OpenAL Soft

Number of OpenAL sources: 31

Sound sampling rate: 0
------------------------------------

-------- vid initialization --------
SDL version is: 2.30.2
SDL video driver is "x11".
SDL display modes:
 - Mode  0: 1920x1080@60
 - Mode  1: 1680x1050@60
 - Mode  2: 1600x1200@60
 - Mode  3: 1440x900@60
 - Mode  4: 1280x1024@75
 - Mode  5: 1280x1024@60
 - Mode  6: 1280x960@60
 - Mode  7: 1152x720@60
 - Mode  8: 1024x768@75
 - Mode  9: 1024x768@60
 - Mode 10: 800x600@75
 - Mode 11: 800x600@60
 - Mode 12: 640x480@75
 - Mode 13: 640x480@60
------------------------------------

----- refresher initialization -----
Loading library: ref_gl3.so
Byte ordering: little endian

Refresh: Yamagi Quake II OpenGL3 Refresher
Client: 8.20

Setting mode 21: 1920x1080 (vid_fullscreen 1)
Real display mode: 1920x1080@60
Successfully loaded OpenGL function pointers using glad, got version 3.2!

OpenGL setting:
GL_VENDOR: NVIDIA Corporation
GL_RENDERER: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB/PCIe/SSE2
GL_VERSION: 3.2.0 NVIDIA 550.67
GL_SHADING_LANGUAGE_VERSION: 1.50 NVIDIA via Cg compiler
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Probing for OpenGL extensions:
 - Anisotropic Filtering: Max level: 16x
 - OpenGL Debug Output: Supported (but disabled with gl3_debugcontext = 0)
Loading shaders succeeded.

Successfully loaded ref_gl3.so as rendering backend.
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------- input initialization -------
0 joysticks were found.
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------- curl initialization -------
Loading library: libcurl.so.4
------------------------------------

Unknown command "d1"
==== Yamagi Quake II Initialized ====

*************************************

Reverb set to: Disabled
^[^[^[Loading plaque timed out.

I don't know if the "Loading plaque timed out" is coinciding with my problem, if it's unrelated I will make a separate issue.

[Yamagi]

Hmm... Looks like we indeed might have a problem here.

Some explanation: Quake II is a single threaded program, every frame starts at the mainloop and walks through all subsystems. Server -> game -> generic part of the client -> sound -> renderer. The 'loading plaque' is an internal mechanism to save CPU and GPU power, when the loading screen is drawn the sound and renderer subsystems are skipped. When the loading plaque is shown too long it times out (that timeout is an indicator that id Software had some problems with it showing forever) and the game starts to render whatever is there.

I updated to 8.30 and after that all my mods fail to start.

Can you give me some examples which mods are affected?

[0lvin]

Just for curiosity, could you please also check with yquake2remaster latest master code?

I have recently added code for binary search file in package, I expect it should improve file search in packages with really big amount of files. But I have not found huge difference with and without such code in load time.

[InFerYes]

Can you give me some examples which mods are affected?

The mods affected are dday and action quake 2

Just for curiosity, could you please also check with yquake2remaster latest master code?

I have recently added code for binary search file in package, I expect it should improve file search in packages with really big amount of files. But I have not found huge difference with and without such code in load time.

I will try this and get back to you later