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KA10: LDS-1 #108

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larsbrinkhoff opened this issue May 20, 2019 · 5 comments
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KA10: LDS-1 #108

larsbrinkhoff opened this issue May 20, 2019 · 5 comments
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larsbrinkhoff commented May 20, 2019

I'm vaguely interested in making a simulation of the Evans & Sutherland LDS-1 display system. You can assign this to me, but it's a long-term project.

There are some short programming examples in the manuals on bitsavers:
http://bitsavers.org/pdf/evansAndSutherland/lds-1/

There is a Fortran program, but the LDS-1 library is missing:
https://github.com/aaron-marcus/cybernetic-landscapes

The PDP-10 MAZE server has a few lines involving the LDS-1.

There was a flight simulator with an aircraft carrier. There was a version of Spacewar.

@rcornwell rcornwell added this to To Do in KA10 Simulator via automation May 20, 2019
@rcornwell rcornwell moved this from To Do to Future Work in KA10 Simulator Jun 13, 2019
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larsbrinkhoff commented Jan 10, 2020

I have now found some bits and pieces of LDS-1 software from the MIT PDP-10s, mainly Dynamic Modeling.

  • "Map test"
  • DRAW, paint program.
  • MUDGRF, Muddle graphics library with support for the LDS-1.

https://github.com/PDP-10/its/issues?q=label%3A%22e%26s+lds-1%22

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I'm tempted to start playing with this.

The hardware connects to both the I/O bus and the memory bus. Do we have any strong arguments to do this a particular way:

  1. Built into SIMH.
  2. External program with AUXCPU-like interface.
  3. New interface with shared memory.

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I would probably build this into simH, I already have a couple devices that talk to both I/O bus and Memory. Also the III display uses I/O to start of processing, but takes it's list from memory.

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Having found what I believe to be the DM ITS "Maze Watcher" for the E&S display, I have started the emulator. Here's a first session with one of the sample programs, and a rather stubbed out display emlation. This looks reasonable.

DBG(322266172)> ES CONO: 000000515330 PC=173743
DBG(1205613531)> ES CONO: 000000005010 PC=065540
DBG(1205614242)> ES CONO: 000000515330 PC=065573
DBG(1205614249)> ES CONO: 000000515330 PC=065575
DBG(1205614274)> ES CONI: 000000000000 PC=065605
DBG(1205617340)> same as above (511 times)
DBG(1205617350)> ES DATAIO: DATAO 000501052405 PC=065605
DBG(1205617360)> ES DATAIO: DATAO 300541163032 PC=065605
DBG(1205617370)> ES DATAIO: DATAO 300441163033 PC=065605
DBG(1205617380)> ES DATAIO: DATAO 302641163034 PC=065605
DBG(1205617390)> ES DATAIO: DATAO 302701163035 PC=065605
DBG(1205617400)> ES DATAIO: DATAO 000100000000 PC=065604
DBG(1205617403)> ES CONI: 000000000000 PC=065605
DBG(1205617415)> ES CONI: 000000000000 PC=065611
DBG(1205617423)> ES CONO: 000000000400 PC=065614
DBG(1205617426)> ES CONO: 000000222016 PC=065615

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@rcornwell, possible future use case: If I want to run an LDS-1 emulator on a separate computer/microcontroller, how would you suggest I attach it to the KA10 emulator? The LDS-1 will both read and write to main memory, and there is an I/O bus connection as well.

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