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ravynOS 0.4.0pre4 boots all the way into the GUI on the Framework Mainboard with 11th Gen Intel Core (Tiger Lake) and a HDMI display attached over a USB-3 hub (that supports DP altmode). Great job! Also works on a Cherry Trail based Acer TravelMate B. On both systems, the GUI comes up, then the console is shown for half a second or so, and then the GUI is shown again. Is that switching back and forth needed? |
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Not sure what you're seeing... is the console shown between login window and desktop window? |
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I see the Login window for a very short while, then I see the text console for a short while, then I see the Login window again. |
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Actually, |
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Ah, interesting! I have noticed the complete lack of power management on my system, but haven't spent any time really investigating it. Maybe we are missing some firmware blob? |
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Windows-Enter does not really work; it flickers a window for a split second which then disappears. |
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Thanks. A few people have reported that one (issue #292). I'll look into it! |
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Shutdown and Restart do nothing. Sleep seems to work on the Cherry Trail based Acer TravelMate B but not on the Tiger Lake based Framework Mainboard. |
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Sleep just calls ACPI, like |
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Resume is kind of ugly, though. Intel WiFi 6 AX normally does not resume well and needs to be restarted with |
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Yep! SystemUIServer provides the menu bar, Ravyn menu, application menus (NSMenu) delegated from Cocoa apps, status items (NSStatusItem) menu extras (NSMenuExtra), and clock. |
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I wish I could support this project, but for now the best I can do is cheer from the side, as I am way out of my depth here. This project is extremely awesome and interesting and I am intending to follow it to the best of my ability! Thank you awesome devs! |
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Thank you for the kind words. Your cheers mean a lot! |
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I just found out about the project on Hacker News! I'm really impressed! 😃 I used GNUstep a lot in the past, and I was sad that Étoilé never seemed to get anywhere. I'm especially excited since you are using BSD instead of GNU/systemd! And that you are rewriting window server instead of bodging Xorg/KDE to just "look Mac" and hijack the menu bar. I have been recommending friends and family members who wants something else than Windows (or Mac OS on their MacBook that has stopped receiving updates), and I have recommended elementary OS for the past few years. Maybe in a few more, I won't have to! 🥲 |
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Well said indeed! |
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Awesome goals and efforts. I will be happy to join this project in 6 months. Kudos to team! |
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thank you :) |
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Hi, this looks cool! I am wondering though, can I run this on a virtual machine (vmware if it matters)? I have an i7 11800H (and its included iGPU) and a laptop RTX 3070. Will the GUI work for me? |
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As of now, nope. There have been some hiccups with making vm graphics work with Wayland, and another set of issues with Xorg. You can run this baremetal provided you disable dGPU-only mode/ enable hybrid mode if you have a gaming laptop with a MUX switch using the UEFI/ BIOS menu or the laptop manufacturer's control panel software. If you have a regular optimus/ hybrid graphics laptop, there is no need to configure anything since the defacto primary GPU is always the iGPU. Since this question has been asked quite a lot of times in the ravynOS discord server, along with a few other redundant questions, I suggest checking out the FAQ from the official page, or from the #frequently-asked-questions channel in the ravynOS discord server. |
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does not boot on my Lenovo T450s
the USB port is OK, have just used it for backup minutes ago same with the release and the nightly |
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Are you booting under UEFI?On Dec 2, 2023, at 8:45 AM, Axel Burwitz ***@***.***> wrote:
does not boot on my Lenovo T450s
IMG_20231202_142803479_HDR.jpg (view on web)
the USB port is OK, have just used it for backup minutes ago
same with the release and the nightly
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Yes, I do! UEFI Secure Boot is Off |
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btw FreeBSD-14.0 boots well |
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I’m asking because the screenshot looks like a legacy BIOS boot. It should be loading /boot/loader.efi.On Dec 4, 2023, at 12:20 PM, Axel Burwitz ***@***.***> wrote:
btw FreeBSD-14.0 boots well
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hey, you are right! I doublechecked and found out, that this notebook shows UEFI in setup start screen, but when you change to 'Startup' screen I discovered you can change a priority of 'Legacy' BIOS OR UEFI. Now I have to figure out what user/password combination is required for this initial start...
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Awesome! The live ISO login is “liveuser” and there’s no password. Keep your expectations low - I haven’t got much built yet. :)
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Great! Logged in, the basic black desktop screen comes up. I can click the menu button on the upper left corner and see some entries. I push 'Logo' + 'Enter' and would expect a terminal or app menu, but there is only a very short flickering rectangle box in the middle before it disappears again, so not possible to do anything here. When I hit the right mouse button on the desktop screen, a small box with 'Reconfigure' and 'Exit' comes up. Choosing 'Exit' ends the desktop and brings up the login screen again. That's it. So, whenever you might find my support by testing useful: I have this spare system, I have time, I have been using FreeBSD for some years, have Linux experience. Contact me and tell me what to do, I can do tests, installs, sending logs, things like that. |
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Interesting. There should be a desktop wallpaper and a Dock with a Terminal app as well. Someone on Discord also reported this black screen experience recently so something must be broken. I’ll take a look when I find some time!
Thanks for trying it :)
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ravynOS Pygmy Marmoset
Developer Preview Release v0.4.0pre4
Welcome to the 0.4.0pre4 Developer Preview of ravynOS as we continue working towards release 0.4! As usual, this is an unstable pre-release of upcoming stuff intended for people helping build the system. It is not complete. It contains bugs - sometimes serious ones - including application and desktop crashes and kernel panics. You have been warned.
This snapshot release includes the start of a GUI based on Cocoa and Mach. It aims to be Mac compatible. The GUI is very rudimentary so far - please be patient! More is on the way.
Detailed release notes below!
TLDR: This release does stuff. More stuff than the previous one, but not by much, and a lot less than we want it to do eventually.
Kernel stabilization
A major bug in mach_msg memory allocation was fixed, massively improving the kernel's stability. There may still be occasional freezes or panics, mainly in the
drm-kmod(DRM/KMS video) drivers or in the latest Intel wifi (iwlwifi) driver.More LaunchDaemons
Launchdnow starts the Apple syslog (asld) andauditdservices which had been previously disabled for stability issues. The command-lineaslutilcan be used to examine ASL logs.WindowServer & SystemUIServer
The Tanuki series releases used a pretty traditional X11/KDE desktop environment that was shoehorned into looking and behaving like the Mac desktop. However, this can only go so far due to the very different architecture and design of the two systems. 0.4.0pre3 had the very first bits of a new UI built ground-up to be what we need. This release adds some vital plumbing and the first version of SystemUIServer.
WindowServer should start automatically if it detects a supported GPU (Intel HD and Iris, AMD or Radeon - we are still working towards virtual machine support with qxl and vmwgfx drivers). If successful, a black and white "ravynOS" wallpaper should appear on all screens and a login window should appear on one of them. Enter "liveuser" as the user name, leave password blank, and click the
Loginbutton. If you get it wrong, there is no feedback: just try again. A better login window is in development but we needed something quickly to make the Live ISO work :)After login, the display should change to a black screen with a menu bar at the top of one screen. The menu bar has a clock and the Ravyn menu, with typical options like
About this computer,Recent items,SleepandRestart. Most of these work - try Sleep, Restart, and Shut Down in particular and please report if they work for your hardware.When a Cocoa app (e.g.
/Applications/Utilities/Install ravynOS.app) is launched, its menus appear in the global bar and can be used as you would expect. Switching applications will switch the active menus as well. Exiting an application removes its menus from the bar. Remaining work items are tracked here. Also beware of known issues #288 and #280 in particular.Temporary Secret Terminal
Since the desktop has no way yet to launch apps, you can press
<Logo>-<Enter>(Logobeing your Windows or Command key or its equivalent) to launch a terminal window. Press<Alt>-<Space>while focused for a window menu, then enable Decorations to allow moving or resizing the window. The shell will be running asnobody, so usesu - liveuserto get to your regular account. This is not a Cocoa app and has no menus; it will go away once we have something better.Other Changes
Limitations and Known Issues
openoptions (e.g. redirecting I/O, setting env vars, wait for exit) are not yet implemented on thelaunchdversion of LaunchServicesPlease see the wiki for system requirements, install instructions and where to find things.
Ask questions or give feedback in the Discussions area. Please report any bugs to the Issues tracker. Your help in fixing said bugs would be appreciated too! Thanks!
Get It!
Download 0.4.0pre4 from NomadLogic - US West or your closest mirror:
US Central | US East | US East 2 | Norway | Denmark
Unstable "nightly" builds are also available for developer testing:
Download from US West | US Central | US East | US East 2 | Norway | Denmark
Acknowledgements
As usual, thank you to our community of sponsors, designers, developers, testers, and users, and mirror hosts for supporting the project.
This discussion was created from the release ravynOS 0.4.0pre4.
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