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Exercise 4.6 - clarification needed #10

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abhinav-upadhyay opened this issue Aug 24, 2019 · 3 comments
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Exercise 4.6 - clarification needed #10

abhinav-upadhyay opened this issue Aug 24, 2019 · 3 comments
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The definition of CodeCog is not clear from the question. I could think of two possible interpretations: CodeCog is a set consisting of any n natural numbers, or another interpretation is that CodeCog consists of numbers from 1 to n.

In the latter interpretation, it is pretty straightforward to prove that the union of all such CodeCog will essentially be N
CodeCog
which has an injective mapping from CodeCog

In the former case I am confused if it can be shown that there will be a injection from CodeCog to the union because I can always select arbitrary CodeCog which always excludes certain numbers from CodeCog (say none of the CodeCog has 1) then the union will essentially be CodeCog. In this case it is easy to show a surjection from CodeCog to CodeCog but will it also be an injection because of the their infinite cardinality?

@j2kun j2kun added question Further information is requested Sets Exercises for Chapter 4, Sets labels Aug 28, 2019
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j2kun commented Aug 28, 2019

I should have instead wrote the question as:

Suppose for each natural number n we chose a different, countably infinite set $A_n$. I.e., each $A_n$ has a bijection with the natural numbers, but each $A_n$ is itself different. Prove the union is countable.

As an example, you could have the set of all pairs $A_n = {(n, i) : i \in \mathbb{N}}$. Perhaps I can make it simpler and just use that concrete choice in the next version of the book...

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Thank you, that helps :-)

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j2kun commented Aug 29, 2019

Sorry, I was mistaken. The previous exercise already uses that concrete construction. I suppose the point of this exercise was to show that N x N is not special in this regard. I.e., you can take countably infinite sets that don't look like N and give the necessary bijection to N x N

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