Hoop size setting

[QTP2]

An inkstitch embroidery file that fits in my 20 x 28 cm Elna hoop can't be converted properly to jef file. It won't show up in my list on the Elna Machine. But I can read out the jef file with MySewnet and when I convert it again with MySewnet, it will show up in the list on my machine. A red warning sign is telling me: "After checking out the hoop size 200x280 start working out the embroidery project." This warning sign is unique to these kind of files.
Zipped files:

1. test file with one long line converted by Inkstitch to jef. This file is not recognized by my machine.
2. the same line in svg
3. The file converted by Inkstitch and converted again by MySewnet. This file is recognized by my machine.
   Zipped test files.zip

[Marif91]

Es-tu sûr de l'orientation de ton motif ? 20X28 ou 29X20 ?
Il vaut mieux 19,8 et 27,8...
Pour ma part je vérifierais les dimensions et l'orientation de mon motif...

[QTP2]

Marif91,
J'avait décrit mon problème dans le forum Inkstitch et Kaalleen me conseillait de faire ces fichiers de teste et les publier ici. Le'object du fichier qui me causait les problèmes avait 232,4 x 184,0 centimètres, se composait de 27946 points et cinque couleurs. Et oui, le cerceau à broder en cause a 20 x28 centimètres. La aussi, le fichier est accepté par ma machine quand je convertis le fichier encore une fois par MySewnet.

[kaalleen]

@QTP2 Thank you for taking the extra step and post your issue and the files here on GitHub.
@Marif91 may be right about asking for the orientation. The most obvious observation when you simply open both jef files in Inkscape is that the MySewnet file is rotated by 90 degree.

When you rotate and export your design in Ink/Stitch does your machine read the file?

[QTP2]

Thank you, Kaalleen, you were right!
when I rotate the file in InkStitch it is recognized by my machine. But my machine still tells me: "After checking out the hoop size 200x280 start working out the embroidery project." Strange! As if InkStitch has no clue where to put embroidery projects larger than 20 x20 and the machine has to find its own way to put them into a hoop. But at least I can work out large embroidery projects without having to reconvert them by MySewnet.

[kaalleen]

Inkscape doesn't know anything about your hoop size. It saves the design as is. I suppose that there is a hoop size setting in MySewnet, so they know which hoop you are planning to use.

[tyrosinase]

Inkscape doesn't know anything about your hoop size. It saves the design as is. I suppose that there is a hoop size setting in MySewnet, so they know which hoop you are planning to use.

Maybe we need a feature request for "set a maximum hoop size after which it will try to rotate to fit and/or pop up a warning"? (My Brother automatically rotated and the Janome is square up until the giant hoop, so it isn't a priority for me... though I did write a utility that yells at me if I make a 4x4 design that doesn't fit, since I usually test in the 140mm hoop.)

[QTP2]

Kaalleen, Tyrosinase, thank you both for your input. I don't know anything about programming. I'm just using programs. Yes, Kaalleen, MySewnet has beautiful drawn virtual hoops on its program where any silly like me can see at first go on which hoop size she is working at. ;) What still confuses me is that my Elna machine still sends me this warning "mind the hoop size" even when I rotated the design and nevertheless the design fits perfectly in the giant hoop of my machine. But, anyway, now I know how to deal with that problem, rotate the design and ignore the warning.

[tyrosinase]

It doesn't actually restrict the design size at all, but if you go into with a text editor and add this to your pages.csv (on my Linux machine it's in .config/inkscape/pages.csv in my home directory, Windows may vary) you can pick all sorts of standard hoop sizes. (Of course you can just put in whatever hoops your machine takes.) Then you can go into Document Settings and choose hoops just like paper sizes.

#Inkscape page sizes
#NAME,                    WIDTH, HEIGHT, UNIT
4x4,                        100,    100, mm
5x7,                        130,    180, mm
8x8,                        200,    200, mm
6x10,                       150,    250, mm
6x10 max,                   160,    260, mm
7x12,                       180,    300, mm
8x12,                       200,    300, mm
8x14,                       200,    360, mm
9x12,                       230,    300, mm
9.5x14,                     240,    360, mm

You can also set up templates that will do that if you always use the same hoop size.

[Marif91]

On peut également envisager de préparer des modèles en inversant longueur et hauteur à condition de travailler sur la page d'inkscape après avoir fait une rotation de 90degrés de la page