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Notes about using this template The following values provdie some placeholders: "NNN" = IETF meeting number "NAME" = Full working group name "WGNAME" = WG Acronym
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(IETFNNN or "Interim") WGNAME WG Session Agenda
- WG General Info
- [WG GitHub Repositories](https://github.com/[WG Github path])
- ADD Documents, Drafts and I-Ds
- AD: (AD name)
- Chairs: (Chair 1 name), (Chair 2 name)
- [Meetecho Link](https://meetings.conf.meetecho.com/ietfNNN/?group=WGNAME remote participation
- [Meeting Minutes](https://codimd.ietf.org/notes-ietf-NNN-WGNAME
- Meeting Chat
Add has a single 2hr session: Friday July 30, 12:00-14:00 PDT (UTC-7) 1900-2100 UTC
- 5 minutes
- NOTE WELL
- Scribe selection
- Agenda bashing
- IETF NNN WGNAME Presentions Link
- [DRAFT 1](https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/DRAFT 1/)
- 10 minutes + 10 minutes Q&A
- [DRAFT 2](https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/DRAFT 2/)
- 10 minutes + 20 minutes Q&A
- draft-ietf-add-dnr
- 5 minutes + 5 minutes Q&A
- draft-reddy-add-enterprise-split-dns
- 5 minutes + 5 minutes Q&A
- draft-boucadair-add-deployment-considerations
- 5 minutes + 10 minutes Q&A
- Slides: See PR11 ADD DNS and Forwarders slides by Ben Schwartz & Tommy Jensen
- DDR Pull Request PR11
- See ADD list Thread for background discussion
- 10 minutes + 15 minutes discussion
The general assumption for the DDR threat model so far is that:
(presumably because DHCP is secure in some way). If that's not true, then I think we can agree that DDR does not provide much additional security benefit because the attacker can just substitute their own resolver [0].
Either the home network or the ISP network is insecure, otherwise you don't need DoX.
OPPORTUNISTIC MODE So, first, its not entirely clear to me what the Opportunistic mode of S 4.2 provides. In this scenario, presumably the client will be doing TLS to the CPE (because otherwise the IP address would be the resolver's public address), which means that we are concerned with the attacker controlling the home network. So, in this scenario, we are only getting value if you have a network in which:
- The attacker can see traffic not destined for their IP address (otherwise there's not much point in encrypting).
- The attacker cannot forge traffic from another IP address> (otherwise they can just impersonate the CPE because there is no certificate).
Are there an appreciable number of networks with these properties? If so, can we write down where that happens and put it in Security Considerations? If not, we should consider removing this mode.
- 5 min - Wrap up + Future Planning