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Rendering order buildings / roads / highway-area #172

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matthijsmelissen opened this issue Sep 17, 2013 · 11 comments
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Rendering order buildings / roads / highway-area #172

matthijsmelissen opened this issue Sep 17, 2013 · 11 comments

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@matthijsmelissen
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I am not sure what is the best rendering order for buildings, roads, and highway-areas, and would like your input.

In terms of rendering order, it seems to make sense to have the following three requirements:

  1. building > highway-area-fill
    Buildings should be rendered above highway-areas. If buildings are rendered lower than highway-areas, then buildings in the middle of a square become invisible. For example, the kiosk in the middle of this square would not be rendered.
  2. roads-casing > building
    Buildings should be rendered below roads. If buildings are rendered higher than roads, then roads are difficult to see in dense built-up areas, as can be seen here. Alternatively, buildings can be rendered below the fill of roads, but above the casing of roads. This leads, however, to gaps in the casing of roads, as can be seen in this example, where the casing is made a bit wider and given a red colour.
  3. highway-area-fill > roads-casing
    Highway-areas should be rendered above roads (at least above their casings). When highway-areas are rendered below the casing of road, the places where a road runs in an area become ugly.

Unfortunately, requirements 1, 2, and 3 are not compatible.

Violating 1. is an option, but is undesirable as it would require large-scale re-tagging. All the highway-areas with a building in the middle to be tagged should be tagged as multipolygons if we decide to violate this requirement.

Violating 2., in the version where buildings are rendered below the fill but above the casing of roads, is currently used. In the current style, the gaps in the road casing are not a major problem because buildings and road casings have a visually similar colour. However, if someone decides to adapt the colours, this might become a problem.
The version where buildings are also rendered above the casing of roads seems no option for a map that is meant to focus on roads.

Violating 3. seems not an option, because of the ugly rendering.

Or are there any ideas to avoid this problem altogether?

matthijsmelissen added a commit to matthijsmelissen/openstreetmap-carto that referenced this issue Sep 17, 2013
The layer order used to be as follows.

(bridges)                               B

I classified all layers between and including the bridge-layers and the tunnels-layer with one of the following classifications:

B    Bridge level.
R/B  Above roads but below bridges.
R    Road level.
T/R  Above tunnels but below roads.
T    Tunnel level.

I grouped all of the layers within one class together, without changing the order within the classes. For now, I ignored the buildings-layers, due to the difficulties with ordering buildings, highways and highway-areas described in gravitystorm#172.

This change causes a couple of changes in the rendering, which mainly occur in rare cases.
- Casings of turning circles are now drawn above foot/bike/track tunnels (they were already drawn above other tunnels), and above cliffs and barriers (just like other roads are drawn above cliffs and barriers).
- Landuse-overlays (i.e., military and national park), castlewalls, and citywalls are now drawn above foot/bike/track tunnels (they were already drawn above other tunnels).
- Ferry-routes are now drawn below roads (highways, tracks, turning-circles, and highway-areas).
- Railways on level 12 (due to the #roads-low-zoom layer), aerialways, and waterway-bridges are now drawn above access and directions markers of roads (they were already drawn above the roads themselves).
matthijsmelissen added a commit to matthijsmelissen/openstreetmap-carto that referenced this issue Sep 17, 2013
The layer order used to be as follows.

(bridges)                           B
direction-pre-bridges.directions    R
access-pre-bridges.access           R
waterway-bridges                    R/B
roads-low-zoom                      R/B
aerialways                          R/B
ferry-routes                        T/R
turning-circle-fill                 R
roads-fill                          R
tracks-notunnel-nobridge            R
buildings                           ???
buildings-lz                        ???
highway-area-fill                   R
roads-casing                        R
highway-area-casing                 R
area-barriers.barriers              T/R
cliffs                              T/R
line-barriers.barriers              T/R
tracks-tunnels                      T
footbikecycle-tunnels               T
turning-circle-casing               R
landuse-overlay                     T/R
castlewalls-poly.castlewalls        T/R
castlewalls.castlewalls             T/R
citywalls                           T/R
tunnels                             T

I classified all layers between and including the bridge-layers and the tunnels-layer with one of the following classifications:

B    Bridge level.
R/B  Above roads but below bridges.
R    Road level.
T/R  Above tunnels but below roads.
T    Tunnel level.

I grouped all of the layers within one class together, without changing the order within the classes. For now, I ignored the buildings-layers, due to the difficulties with ordering buildings, highways and highway-areas described in gravitystorm#172.

This change causes a couple of changes in the rendering, which mainly occur in rare cases.
- Casings of turning circles are now drawn above foot/bike/track tunnels (they were already drawn above other tunnels), and above cliffs and barriers (just like other roads are drawn above cliffs and barriers).
- Landuse-overlays (i.e., military and national park), castlewalls, and citywalls are now drawn above foot/bike/track tunnels (they were already drawn above other tunnels).
- Ferry-routes are now drawn below roads (highways, tracks, turning-circles, and highway-areas).
- Railways on level 12 (due to the #roads-low-zoom layer), aerialways, and waterway-bridges are now drawn above access and directions markers of roads (they were already drawn above the roads themselves).
@dieterdreist
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2013/9/17 math1985 notifications@github.com

building > highway-area-fill Buildings should be rendered above
highway-areas. If buildings are rendered lower than highway-areas, then
buildings in the middle of a square become invisible. For example, the
kiosk in the middle of this square would not be renderedhttp://i.imgur.com/G8wzYSm.png
.

IMHO a problem in our data model, this is something that bothered me for a
long time: the kiosk (or a fountain for instance) clearly aren't
highway=pedestrian, nonetheless they are part of the square.

@matthijsmelissen
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This is step II of #162.

@matthijsmelissen
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@gravitystorm @pnorman Do you have an opinion on this issue?

@pnorman
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pnorman commented May 21, 2014

Violating 1. is an option, but is undesirable as it would require large-scale re-tagging. All the highway-areas with a building in the middle to be tagged should be tagged as multipolygons if we decide to violate this requirement.

This is necessary from a routing perspective too.

I'm trying to tackle buildings too, and running into issues in downtown Seattle

That being said, I'd like to keep buildings above areas and roads above buildings, so I think we're stuck with the current option for that.

I have tried changing the colour, and didn't find the gaps to be a particular issue.

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hlaw commented May 29, 2014

Similar intersection query as in #565 for place_of_worship may solve the 3 inequalities - if buildings intersecting highway areas are identified, the rendering order could be:
buildings within highway areas > highway area fill > road casing > other buildings
at the expenses of one more layer.
Would not address the routing concern though (but perhaps routers should also read buildings and treat them as barriers).

matthijsmelissen added a commit to matthijsmelissen/openstreetmap-carto that referenced this issue Jun 10, 2014
Tunnels under buildings are currently hard to see, because buildings are
only partially transparent. Removal of the transparency, such as in gravitystorm#565,
would even cause tunnels under buildings to become invisible.

Because tunnels are dashed, it is still clear that they are tunnels.

This solves gravitystorm#172.

This change has a couple of side effects:
- Buildings are now rendered behind highway-areas. This is an issue with
  areas with buildings in the middle. They might not all have correctly
  been tagged as multipolygon. Areas with buildings in the middle that are
  not tagged as multipolygon need to be retagged, and as long as they are
  not retagged, the houses will be hidden. Note that retagging would in
  any case be an improvement, as the building is not part of the area,
  and retagging is needed for routing (the building cannot be crossed
  for routing purposes).
- Buildings are now rendered behind citywalls, castlewalls,
  castlewalls-poly, cliffs, area-barriers, and tree-rows.
  This is probably a slight improvement.
- Buildings are now also rendered behind landuse-overlay (currently only
  military), which is not ideal, but probable acceptable. If this is a
  problem, we can push landuse-overlay further down, below tunnels.
- Buildings are now also rendered behind ferry-routes, which probably
  does not occur often.
- Buildings are now rendered behind roads-casing and
  turning-circle-casing, which is an improvement as buildings are
  already rendered behind roads-fill and turning-circle-fill.
@K4LCIFER
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what would be the current status of this issue?

@imagico
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imagico commented Nov 30, 2022

The status of this issue is that is is closed after the objectives were - as far as it is possible in the framework we use - accomplished. The fundamental issue of layering of road polygons still exists of course, manifested in various forms like:

#529
#688
#2958

And we have discussed various possibilities of changing things in light of these:

#2046
#3281

None of these, however, will resolve the fundamental problem that

  • we need to render road polygon features above road lines for a consistent display of the road system and
  • we should ideally render road polygon features before various line features (like road tunnels but also waterways and barriers).

Solving this is hard to do in our current technical framework because it would require either

  • do complex and expensive zoom level dependent geometry preprocessing that is not really feasible in a map style suitable for real time updates
  • do more sophisticated raster compositioning - which our current rendering framework does not support

We have not definitely given up on improving the style on this front (hence the last two issues linked to above are open) but there is no clear perspective or consensus so far how to do that.

@Sirorezka
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Hi,

Sorry, it's not clear. Why can't you downgrade "area=yes, highway=pedestrian" and "area=yes, highway=footpath" to level of "amenity=parking"? This will solve the issue/

@matthijsmelissen
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@Sirorezka that would violate constraint 3, which means the road casings will appear on top of the pedestrian areas. Example rendering

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Sorry, what do you mean by 'road casings'? Tunnels or "end of lines rounds?" In case of tunnels it is very much ok to see tunnels if they underneath pedestrian area. In case of end of way rounds - I would say that you don't see often roads that clash directly in pedestrian area. And having this small clashes is much better than not rendering anything on pedestrian area.

@matthijsmelissen
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Sorry, what do you mean by 'road casings'? Tunnels or "end of lines rounds?"

Casings are the dark outlines around roads - for example visible at round lines at the end of lines.

I would say that you don't see often roads that clash directly in pedestrian area. And having this small clashes is much better than not rendering anything on pedestrian area.

I'd expect you have such roads for most pedestrian areas. To me these clashes look quite bad, but that's a choice for the maintainers to make.

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