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Render flush toilets slightly differently from pit or chemical toilets #1508

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brycenesbitt opened this issue Apr 30, 2015 · 9 comments
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@brycenesbitt
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Tag toilets:disposal is available to determine the toilet type. toilets:type has the same data. There are 10,000 uses between them.

@HolgerJeromin
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Do you have any idea for rendering different? The toilet icon was pretty hard to design in the 14x14 pixel space.
The logic should be to render
toilets:disposal=pitlatrine || toilets:disposal=chemical
different, as toilets:disposal has many bogus data and most toilets are not tagged.
I am unsure to support the obsolete toilets:type but it has a high count for toilets:type=pit (other values were cleaned up by me).

@brycenesbitt
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One idea is to use the common crescent moon "outhouse" symbol for the pit toilets.
Or, the centre bar between the man and woman could be dashed for pit/chemical toilets (but few people would figure that out without a map key).

@HolgerJeromin
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I have never seen a crescent moon on an outhouse and I think this would be misinterpreted as a symbol for muslim thing, as a muslim place of worship has such a symbol.
A dashed line would work, but i think this would probably interpreted as a lack of separation for men and women. :)

@brycenesbitt
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Color or background could also be used. The 14x14 space is terribly tiny.

The "outhouse" map symbol is not something I invented:
symb_outhouse
For some historic analysis see http://missourifolkloresociety.truman.edu/outhouses.html

@pnorman pnorman added this to the 3.x - Needs upgrade to openstreetmap-carto.style milestone Apr 30, 2015
@gravitystorm
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I think this level of detail is well beyond a general-purpose map.

@matthijsmelissen
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I think this level of detail is well beyond a general-purpose map.

+1, closing this.

@brycenesbitt
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I think you have a lot of people who won't use a pit toilet, who are simply unable to derive value from a single icon. For example: one might be willing to walk to a farther toilet, if the nearby one is a pit, and a nearby flush unit can be seen on the map.

@gravitystorm
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Sure, I understand why you might be interested in whether it's a pit toilet or not. But people might be interested in whether a supermarket is selling cornflakes, or a hairdressers does dying as well as cutting, or if a telephone box has wifi available, or if a museum has audioguides in Japanese, or....

For every feature in OSM, there will be some additional - and useful - level of detail that we need to choose not to render on this style.

@matthiasfeist
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I don't necessarily want to open up this discussion again, but it seems that the iD editor has chosen to support the mapping of these kinds of toilets by providing a template for tagging and also renders it with a special icon.
Example here: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3666208448

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