Can you release the hyper-parameter of NER task?

[Albert-Ma]

My result of NER is not as good as your paper said.

[qiuwei]

@Albert-XY I heard some important details are not mentioned in the paper. They used the document context instead of the sentence context to get the bert activations for the words.

I did a hyperparameter sweep and the best result I got on conll2003 is 0.907(F1 on test), which is quite far away from the numbers reported in the paper.

[Albert-Ma]

Could you please tell me the hyper-parameter you changed and their values?

Did you add a additional output layer for classify or just use a softmax-classifier?

Thanks
@qiuwei

[qiuwei]

@Albert-XY I replaced the softmax layer with a CRF layer, add apply a dropout with rate 0.1 before the CRF layer.
The batch size is 32. The learning rate is 2e-5.

That's the best I can get with fine tuning.

If use bert activations as input into a 2 layer bilstm-crf model, I could get 91.7 on the test set, still quite far away from the sota.

[dsindex]

@Albert-XY @qiuwei

i also have a similar experience.

https://github.com/dsindex/BERT-BiLSTM-CRF-NER

i can't find a way to increase the test f1 score over 91.3 by official conlleval.pl.
(dev f1 score 96.0 by tf_metrics.py).

• use fine-tuning or feature-based model
• add multi-layer bilstm, crf decoder
• use cased or uncased model
• add dropout
• change batch size
• change learning rate
• increase epoch(train_steps)

maybe i lost some important details. or miss implementation?
i am very curious about the f1 score(dev f1 96.4, test f1 92.4) in the paper(https://arxiv.org/pdf/1810.04805.pdf).
is it really possible to reproduce?

[qiuwei]

@dsindex I head that they fed the document level context to the language model to get the activation for each word.
However, I am not clear about how the document level context was used. I did some preliminary experiments following this idea, i.e., concatenating the sentences before and afterward, but couldn't get any further improvement.

I hope the authors could release more details about the NER experiment. @jacobdevlin-google

[dsindex]

here is the best result so far.

dev eval_f = 0.9627948 (token-based)
test eval_f = 0.92653006(token-based)
test f1(entity-based) = 0.9155

i carefully doubt the f1 score( dev f1 96.4, test f1 92.4) from the paper was calculated by token-based not by entity-based.

[update]
when it comes to evaluating, 'eval_batch_size' and 'predict_batch_size' are 128.

[Albert-Ma]

here is the best result so far.

dev eval_f = 0.9627948 (token-based)
test eval_f = 0.92653006(token-based)
test f1(entity-based) = 0.9155

i carefully doubt the f1 score( dev f1 96.4, test f1 92.4) from the paper was calculated by token-based not by entity-based.

Is the result got by the official evaluate script 'conlleval.pl' ?

[dsindex]

@Albert-XY

dev eval_f = 0.9627948 (token-based)
test eval_f = 0.92653006(token-based)

those scores were reported during training.
(estimator.evaluate())
==> by https://github.com/dsindex/BERT-BiLSTM-CRF-NER/blob/master/tf_metrics.py

def metric_fn(label_ids, pred_ids, per_example_loss, input_mask):
                    # ['<pad>'] + ["O", "B-PER", "I-PER", "B-ORG", "I-ORG", "B-LOC", "I-LOC", "B-MISC", "I-MISC", "X"]
                    indices = [2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9]
                    precision = tf_metrics.precision(label_ids, pred_ids, num_labels, indices, input_mask)
                    recall = tf_metrics.recall(label_ids, pred_ids, num_labels, indices, input_mask)
                    f = tf_metrics.f1(label_ids, pred_ids, num_labels, indices, input_mask)
                    accuracy = tf.metrics.accuracy(label_ids, pred_ids, input_mask)
                    loss = tf.metrics.mean(per_example_loss)
                    return {
                        'eval_precision': precision,
                        'eval_recall': recall,
                        'eval_f': f,
                        'eval_accuracy': accuracy,
                        'eval_loss': loss,
                    }

test f1(entity-based) = 0.9155

this score was calculated after converting the predictions.
==> by https://github.com/dsindex/BERT-BiLSTM-CRF-NER/blob/master/conlleval.pl

converted prediction data looks like below.
(skip 'X' tags)

S NN B-NP O O
- : O O O
J NNP B-NP B-LOC B-MISC
GE VB B-VP O O
L NNP B-NP O B-LOC
W NNP I-NP O O
, , O O O
CH NNP B-NP B-PER O
IN IN B-PP O O
S DT B-NP O O
DE NN I-NP O O
. . O O O

Na NNP B-NP B-PER B-PER
La NNP I-NP I-PER I-PER

AL NNP B-NP B-LOC B-LOC
, , O O O
United NNP B-NP B-LOC B-LOC
Arab NNP I-NP I-LOC I-LOC
Emirates NNPS I-NP I-LOC I-LOC
1996 CD I-NP O O

Japan NNP B-NP B-LOC B-LOC
began VBD B-VP O O
the DT B-NP O O
defence NN I-NP O O
of IN B-PP O O
their PRP$ B-NP O O
Asian JJ I-NP B-MISC B-MISC
Cup NNP I-NP I-MISC I-MISC
title NN I-NP O O
with IN B-PP O O
a DT B-NP O O
lucky JJ I-NP O O
2 CD I-NP O O
win VBP B-VP O O
against IN B-PP O O
Syria NNP B-NP B-LOC B-LOC
in IN B-PP O O
a DT B-NP O O
Group NNP I-NP O O
C NNP I-NP O I-MISC
championship NN I-NP O O
match NN I-NP O O
on IN B-PP O O
Friday NNP B-NP O O
. . O O O

...

[Albert-Ma]

@Albert-XY

dev eval_f = 0.9627948 (token-based)
test eval_f = 0.92653006(token-based)

those scores were reported during training.
(estimator.evaluate())
==> by https://github.com/dsindex/BERT-BiLSTM-CRF-NER/blob/master/tf_metrics.py

def metric_fn(label_ids, pred_ids, per_example_loss, input_mask):
                    # ['<pad>'] + ["O", "B-PER", "I-PER", "B-ORG", "I-ORG", "B-LOC", "I-LOC", "B-MISC", "I-MISC", "X"]
                    indices = [2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9]
                    precision = tf_metrics.precision(label_ids, pred_ids, num_labels, indices, input_mask)
                    recall = tf_metrics.recall(label_ids, pred_ids, num_labels, indices, input_mask)
                    f = tf_metrics.f1(label_ids, pred_ids, num_labels, indices, input_mask)
                    accuracy = tf.metrics.accuracy(label_ids, pred_ids, input_mask)
                    loss = tf.metrics.mean(per_example_loss)
                    return {
                        'eval_precision': precision,
                        'eval_recall': recall,
                        'eval_f': f,
                        'eval_accuracy': accuracy,
                        'eval_loss': loss,
                    }

test f1(entity-based) = 0.9155

this score was calculated after converting the predictions.
==> by https://github.com/dsindex/BERT-BiLSTM-CRF-NER/blob/master/conlleval.pl

converted prediction data looks like below.
(skip 'X' tags)

S NN B-NP O O
- : O O O
J NNP B-NP B-LOC B-MISC
GE VB B-VP O O
L NNP B-NP O B-LOC
W NNP I-NP O O
, , O O O
CH NNP B-NP B-PER O
IN IN B-PP O O
S DT B-NP O O
DE NN I-NP O O
. . O O O

Na NNP B-NP B-PER B-PER
La NNP I-NP I-PER I-PER

AL NNP B-NP B-LOC B-LOC
, , O O O
United NNP B-NP B-LOC B-LOC
Arab NNP I-NP I-LOC I-LOC
Emirates NNPS I-NP I-LOC I-LOC
1996 CD I-NP O O

Japan NNP B-NP B-LOC B-LOC
began VBD B-VP O O
the DT B-NP O O
defence NN I-NP O O
of IN B-PP O O
their PRP$ B-NP O O
Asian JJ I-NP B-MISC B-MISC
Cup NNP I-NP I-MISC I-MISC
title NN I-NP O O
with IN B-PP O O
a DT B-NP O O
lucky JJ I-NP O O
2 CD I-NP O O
win VBP B-VP O O
against IN B-PP O O
Syria NNP B-NP B-LOC B-LOC
in IN B-PP O O
a DT B-NP O O
Group NNP I-NP O O
C NNP I-NP O I-MISC
championship NN I-NP O O
match NN I-NP O O
on IN B-PP O O
Friday NNP B-NP O O
. . O O O

...

Your code has bugs. It miss some token labels when predict.

For example:

token1 tag
token2 tag
token3 [nothing]

You can check the predicted result carefully.

[dsindex]

@Albert-XY

oh~ could you point out the code where the bug comes from?

i checked the converted prediction file.

$ wc -l NERdata/test.txt
50350 NERdata/test.txt

$ wc -l pred.txt
49888

$ grep "DOCSTART" NERdata/test.txt | wc -l
231

because i removed '-DOCSTART-' line.

49888 + 2*231 = 50350

so, there was same lines of output data matched.
and i checked if there is an empty label. but every lines of pred.txt have 5 columns.

hmm...

[Albert-Ma]

@Albert-XY

oh~ could you point out the code where the bug comes from?

i checked the converted prediction file.

$ wc -l NERdata/test.txt
50350 NERdata/test.txt

$ wc -l pred.txt
49888

$ grep "DOCSTART" NERdata/test.txt | wc -l
231

because i removed '-DOCSTART-' line.

49888 + 2*231 = 50350

so, there was same lines of output data matched.
and i checked if there is an empty label. but every lines of pred.txt have 5 columns.

hmm...

It does match the lines, because some line just '\n', not label. I found two cases, it should have maybe 40 cases. Check out the label_test.txt please.

In label_test.txt

line 1596, tokens: 'Pakistan', only '\n' follow this, no label.
line 3017, tokens:'Barbarians - 15 - Tim...' it miss one label.

....

I'm checking the code...

[dsindex]

i got 92.16% with BERT large model(note that this is not on average)

lowercase='False'
bert_model_dir=${CDIR}/cased_L-24_H-1024_A-16

python bert_lstm_ner.py   \
        --task_name="NER"  \
        --do_train=True   \
        --use_feature_based=False \
        --do_predict=True \
        --use_crf=True \
        --data_dir=${CDIR}/NERdata  \
        --vocab_file=${bert_model_dir}/vocab.txt  \
        --do_lower_case=${lowercase} \
        --bert_config_file=${bert_model_dir}/bert_config.json \
        --init_checkpoint=${bert_model_dir}/bert_model.ckpt   \
        --max_seq_length=150   \
        --lstm_size=256 \
        --train_batch_size=16   \
        --eval_batch_size=32   \
        --predict_batch_size=32   \
        --bert_dropout_rate=0.2 \
        --bilstm_dropout_rate=0.2 \
        --learning_rate=2e-5   \
        --num_train_epochs=100   \
        --data_config_path=${CDIR}/data.conf \
        --output_dir=${CDIR}/output/result_dir/

processed 46435 tokens with 5648 phrases; found: 5663 phrases; correct: 5212.
accuracy:  98.47%; precision:  92.04%; recall:  92.28%; FB1:  92.16
              LOC: precision:  93.18%; recall:  93.35%; FB1:  93.26  1671
             MISC: precision:  83.53%; recall:  82.34%; FB1:  82.93  692
              ORG: precision:  90.57%; recall:  91.39%; FB1:  90.98  1676
              PER: precision:  96.00%; recall:  96.41%; FB1:  96.20  1624

@Albert-XY @qiuwei

[nreimers]

@dsindex
When I understand you correctly, your 92.16 F1 (test set) is based on a system that uses a BiLSTM-CRF on top.

I tried it with the simple classifier that was described in the paper, but sadly only achieve performances of about 90% F1 (base cased BERT-model using official conlleval.pl script).

Did anyone have any success with improving the performances when using a simple classifier like in the paper?

[dsindex]

@nreimers

i had same question about it. simple softmax layer on the top of bert did not perform well, far from the reported score.

i guess ‘autoML’ would find a way to get there?
or other resources and network archtectures the paper didn’t say.

[nreimers]

I'm afraid that either an important aspect is missing or, what could also be, that a different F1-score metric was used in the paper, for example one that computes the score based on tokens and not on spans. NER sadly faces many issues with a bad reproducibility: http://science-miner.com/a-reproducibility-study-on-neural-ner/

I would love to see the official implementation. It's a bit pity to have a paper claiming a simple state-of-the-art architecture that cannot be reproduced.

[r-wheeler]

@dsindex Digging up an old thread, but from the paper:

To make this compatible with WordPiece
tokenization, we feed each CoNLL-tokenized
input word into our WordPiece tokenizer and
use the hidden state corresponding to the first
sub-token as input to the classifier.

Where no prediction is made for X. Since 
the WordPiece tokenization boundaries are a
known part of the input, this is done for both
training and test.

This makes it sound a bit different than having the CRF layer learn the X token and then simply removing it after running .predict when writing the predictions to a file for evaluation.

[congchan]

@dsindex Digging up an old thread, but from the paper:

To make this compatible with WordPiece
tokenization, we feed each CoNLL-tokenized
input word into our WordPiece tokenizer and
use the hidden state corresponding to the first
sub-token as input to the classifier.

Where no prediction is made for X. Since 
the WordPiece tokenization boundaries are a
known part of the input, this is done for both
training and test.

This makes it sound a bit different than having the CRF layer learn the X token and then simply removing it after running .predict when writing the predictions to a file for evaluation.

I wonder how it is done in training? Does it mean the loss correspond to "##..." tokens and "X" label are never considered in training?

[dsindex]

@congchan

no, it means that ‘##...’ with ‘X’ tags are also trained along with actual tags(ex, PER, LOC, ...).
but, the accuracy for ‘X’ tag is almost perfect. so, the negative effect from those tags would be very small.
i am not sure whether the author used same setting or not.

[1664403370]

here is the best result so far.

dev eval_f = 0.9627948 (token-based)
test eval_f = 0.92653006(token-based)
test f1(entity-based) = 0.9155

i carefully doubt the f1 score( dev f1 96.4, test f1 92.4) from the paper was calculated by token-based not by entity-based.

[update]
when it comes to evaluating, 'eval_batch_size' and 'predict_batch_size' are 128.

Why is my running result all zero? Is the parameter not passed in? what should I do? Thank you

[ghaddarAbs]

In order to reproduce the conll score reported in BERT paper (92.4 bert-base and 92.8 bert-large) one trick is to apply a truecaser on article titles (all upper case sentences) as preprocessing step for conll train/dev/test. This can be simply done with the following method.

#https://github.com/daltonfury42/truecase
#pip install truecase
import truecase
import re




# original tokens
#['FULL', 'FEES', '1.875', 'REOFFER', '99.32', 'SPREAD', '+20', 'BP']

def truecase_sentence(tokens):
   word_lst = [(w, idx) for idx, w in enumerate(tokens) if all(c.isalpha() for c in w)]
   lst = [w for w, _ in word_lst if re.match(r'\b[A-Z\.\-]+\b', w)]

   if len(lst) and len(lst) == len(word_lst):
       parts = truecase.get_true_case(' '.join(lst)).split()

       # the trucaser have its own tokenization ...
       # skip if the number of word dosen't match
       if len(parts) != len(word_lst): return tokens

       for (w, idx), nw in zip(word_lst, parts):
           tokens[idx] = nw

# truecased tokens
#['Full', 'fees', '1.875', 'Reoffer', '99.32', 'spread', '+20', 'BP']

Also, i found useful to use : very small learning rate (5e-6) \ large batch size (128) \ high epoch num (>40).

With these configurations and preprocessing, I was able to reach 92.8 with bert-large.

[dsindex]

@ghaddarAbs

thank you so much~!

https://github.com/dsindex/ntagger/tree/master/data/conll2003_truecase

with conversion to truecased conll2003 data, i got consistent improvement.

https://github.com/dsindex/ntagger#conll-2003-english-1

BERT-large, BiLSTM :  91.32  -> 91.89
BERT-large-squad, BiLSTM : 91.75 -> 92.17
SpanBERT-large, BiLSTM : 91.39 -> 92.01
RoBERTa-large : 91.83 -> 91.90

but, it is very hard to reach 92.8%;;

[ghaddarAbs]

@dsindex

What are the HPs you are using? ... In my case, I can reach 92.8 on the test with:

• spanBert-large
• lr= 5e-6
• train_epoch= 40
• batch_size= 96
• max_seq_len = 64 (you need to intelligently split the sequence)
• dropout (hidden\attention) = .2
• crf (gather first sub tokens and apply crf)

to use large batch_size (96 or 128) for fine-tuning you can use the method below:

seq_lst = split_long_sequence(tokenizer, tokens, tags)
for sent_part_num, (tok_lst, tag_lst) in enumerate(seq_lst):
   if not tok_lst: continue
   # after decoding just sum up the sentence parts

def split_long_sequence(tokenizer, tokens, tags, max_seq_len=64):

   # 1 because of [CLS] token
   count, punct_index, tag_window = 1, [], []
   tmp_tags = [0, 0] + tags + [0, 0]

   for idx, token in enumerate(tokens):
       bert_lst = tokenizer.tokenize(token)
       count += len(bert_lst)

       if re.match(r'[^a-zA-Z0-9]', token):
           punct_index.append(idx)

       t_idx = idx + 2
       if idx and all([t == 0 for t in tmp_tags[t_idx-2:t_idx+2]]):
           tag_window.append(idx)

   if count < max_seq_len:
       return [(tokens, tags)]

   pick_lst = tag_window if tag_window else punct_index
   if not pick_lst:
       mid = len(tokens) // 2
   else:
       index_lst = [(i, math.fabs(i - len(tokens)//2)) for i in pick_lst]
       index_lst.sort(key=lambda x:x[1])
       mid = index_lst[0][0]

   l1 = split_long_sequence(tokenizer, tokens[:mid], tags[:mid], max_seq_len)
   l2 = split_long_sequence(tokenizer, tokens[mid:], tags[mid:], max_seq_len)

   return l1 + l2

[dsindex]

@ghaddarAbs

* BERT-large, BiLSTM :  91.32  -> 91.89
  - batch : 16
  - lr : 1e-5
  - epoch : 10
  - n_ctx(max_seq_len) : 180
  - dropout : 0.1
  - lstm : bi-lstm 2 layers, 200d
  - print out the prediction result to a file and evaluate by conlleval.pl official script.
    - https://github.com/dsindex/ntagger/blob/master/evaluate.py#L143
    - https://github.com/dsindex/ntagger/blob/master/etc/conlleval.pl

* BERT-large-squad, BiLSTM : 91.75 -> 92.17
  - same as above 
  - except, --use_transformers_optimizer --warmup_epoch=0 --weight_decay=0.0 --epoch=30

* SpanBERT-large, BiLSTM : 91.39 -> 92.01
  - same as above
  - except, --use_transformers_optimizer --warmup_epoch=0 --weight_decay=0.0 --epoch=30

* RoBERTa-large : 91.83 -> 91.90
  - same as above
  - except, --use_transformers_optimizer --warmup_epoch=0 --weight_decay=0.0 --epoch=30
  - and --bert_disable_lstm (do not use lstm layer)

i think the differences are larger batch size, smaller sequence length and final CRF layer.
in case CRF, i did experiments with bert-base and got the best result with LSTM only.
so, i do not use CRF layer.

[ghaddarAbs]

@dsindex results were for the fine-tuning approach not feature based with LSTM.

[yzhangcs]

@ghaddarAbs

* BERT-large, BiLSTM :  91.32  -> 91.89
  - batch : 16
  - lr : 1e-5
  - epoch : 10
  - n_ctx(max_seq_len) : 180
  - dropout : 0.1
  - lstm : bi-lstm 2 layers, 200d
  - print out the prediction result to a file and evaluate by conlleval.pl official script.
    - https://github.com/dsindex/ntagger/blob/master/evaluate.py#L143
    - https://github.com/dsindex/ntagger/blob/master/etc/conlleval.pl

* BERT-large-squad, BiLSTM : 91.75 -> 92.17
  - same as above 
  - except, --use_transformers_optimizer --warmup_epoch=0 --weight_decay=0.0 --epoch=30

* SpanBERT-large, BiLSTM : 91.39 -> 92.01
  - same as above
  - except, --use_transformers_optimizer --warmup_epoch=0 --weight_decay=0.0 --epoch=30

* RoBERTa-large : 91.83 -> 91.90
  - same as above
  - except, --use_transformers_optimizer --warmup_epoch=0 --weight_decay=0.0 --epoch=30
  - and --bert_disable_lstm (do not use lstm layer)

i think the differences are larger batch size, smaller sequence length and final CRF layer.
in case CRF, i did experiments with bert-base and got the best result with LSTM only.
so, i do not use CRF layer.

Are the above results the average of several runs?

[dsindex]

@yzhangcs

those are not the average scores but fixed seed yields very similar scores.

https://github.com/dsindex/ntagger#conll-2003-english-1

• sample commands

$ python preprocess.py --config=configs/config-bert.json --data_dir=data/conll2003 --bert_model_name_or_path=./embeddings/bert-large-cased

$ python train.py --config=configs/config-bert.json --data_dir=data/conll2003 --save_path=pytorch-model-bert.pt --bert_model_name_or_path=./embeddings/bert-large-cased --bert_output_dir=bert-checkpoint --batch_size=16 --lr=1e-5 --epoch=10

$ python evaluate.py --config=configs/config-bert.json --data_dir=data/conll2003 --model_path=pytorch-model-bert.pt --bert_output_dir=bert-checkpoint

$ cd data/conll2003; perl ../../etc/conlleval.pl < test.txt.pred ; cd ../..

[yzhangcs]

@dsindex Thank u!

[Albert-Ma]

Huggingface's transformers repo released the run_ner.py, does anyone tried and reproduced some better result?

[BCWang93]

Huggingface's transformers repo released the run_ner.py, does anyone tried and reproduced some better result?

@Albert-Ma ,hi,can you get the score 92.4 use huggingface code?

[RichardScottOZ]

Huggingface's transformers repo released the run_ner.py, does anyone tried and reproduced some better result?

@Albert-Ma ,hi,can you get the score 92.4 use huggingface code?

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