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O's and 0's too close to each other #42

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Feddas opened this issue Mar 5, 2021 · 7 comments
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O's and 0's too close to each other #42

Feddas opened this issue Mar 5, 2021 · 7 comments
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Feddas commented Mar 5, 2021

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The lowercase and uppercase O look great. The zero could be changed to make it look more zero like. Either by making it thinner, putting a slash through the middle, or something else.

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thorn0 commented Mar 5, 2021

Isn't this okay for handwriting fonts though? In what contexts can this cause confusion?

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Feddas commented Mar 6, 2021

I'm in the boat where all characters should be differentiable. I make that slash when I handwrite the 0's in my email address. Why not allow for usernames and IDs to be decipherable?
Otherwise, best use case I could come up with is pretty lame; H20 could be a type of submarine or it could be water. Depending on if that's an "oh" or a zero.

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dwelle commented Mar 6, 2021

I agree. This is similar issue to 1, and you could make the exact same argument as #20: "Digit 0 looks confusing without other digits next to it".

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anumithaapollo12 commented Mar 15, 2021

Hi, this looks interesting! Can I take this up?

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I ovaled the zero a bit - question is is it sufficient?

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Feddas commented Mar 17, 2021

It is subtle, but seems good enough. I'm curious if @anumithaapollo12 has any additional ideas.

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For me it is very important that you can clearly distinguish all the characters. I learned that still in my youth, as a radio operator, when you listen to messages in groups of 5 in Morse code and write down the characters so that you can distinguish them clearly. For one thing, it was important to use a graphite pencil because it survives rain and water. On the other hand, the clear distinction between characters whose meaning is not obvious from the context in groups of 5.

  • O vs 0 (the digit always with a diagonal crossbar)
  • n vs u vs ü vs v vs r
  • e vs l
  • 1 vs t
  • q vs g
  • a vs d
  • b vs 6
    and some others.

That is why there was and still is an extra radio script that had to be learned. At least the German radio script is extremely well thought out, precisely with the goal of good distinguishability.

https://www.qsl.net/dk5ke/bilder/abc.gif

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