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ETC Community Call 027
2022-10-04
1500 UTC
Discord
30-60+ mins

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A casual voice chat to discuss ideas for ETC. All are welcome.

The ETC Discord can be joined at https://ethereumclassic.org/discord

Please join us at any time in the #community-calls channel to ask questions or bring up topics.

This call is an open discussion so please feel free to jump in any time, but be reminded this is live streaming on YouTube.

You can also post chat messages in Discord or YouTube, and we'll try to get to them.

Hosuekeeping

New feature: The Green Room

Join us 30 mins before the call (1430 UTC) to hang out and discuss things before we go live on YouTube.

Agenda: see below

Gratitude: Brotherlal, d_a, (etc.)

Headlines: This Week in ETC

"There is nothing capping Ethereum Classic prices," said de Vries, meaning that miners could potentially make good profits if the market shifted their way.

But crypto-miner J said the new Ethereum was "designed to be more centralised" and suggested it no longer had a real purpose.

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Ecosystem Update

Hashrate and network vitals

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Missed from Last Week

Geopolitics and Mining

Discuss the effects of recent global events on Proof of Work blockchains.

Distribution of hash rate, mostly not mining https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fIqzUNrKU1k_UbiJbDKTkClsfNLcm50YXsvP60GIfwI/htmlview

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Code is Law vs World Computer

Shout out to bob's discord. https://discord.gg/5wDyd6u6pU

Code is Law versus World Computer.
Both are useful, but they are different.
Ethereum started out trying to build both within a single project, but they were mutually irreconcilable.
Both were promised from the very start.
Some people jumped aboard the Ethereum train based on one vision, and some for the other.
Do you want programmable Bitcoin (ETC) or do you want world computer / decentralized application platform (ETH)?
That also explains the very different reactions to the DAO hack.
If you think Ethereum is hard money then of course you don't want to intervene.
If you think Ethereum is a computing platform, and that ETH is "fuel", not money, then you see a "bug" and want to fix it if you can, even if it's an ugly hack.
Any software developers out there will know that lots of software has lots of warts and horrible hacks, where "layering" is not clean at all, and you can end up with hacks and workarounds in the "wrong places" if that results in the rectification of problems which should never have happened in the first place, but did, and you need/want to patch them up.
I think that is very much the mindset which led to the DAO hard fork.
There is a hacker. He is stealing our money. We have the opportunity to stop that theft, so lets do that. Fixing a bug.
Which makes sense if you see Ethereum as mainly a computing platform, like the web, like iOS or Android.
Not if you see Ethereum as money.

False narrative? Instead;

Code is Law is what enables World Computer, because that's the only way the system can remain neutral to every human being

RAI

https://reflexer.finance/ https://github.com/reflexer-labs/whitepapers/blob/master/English/rai-english.pdf

(from ronin discord)

Yeah, this looks interesting to me as well. I think topics like RAI (a detailed discussion) on community calls would be good and educational. This convo can go from educational to building a roadmap where there are products being deployed that have community interest. As mentioned- I'm still researching and such. But I think now that we are post-merge, this would be a good direction to start shifting conversation from a professional perspective.

Topics:

  • ECIPs related to L1
  • necessary L1 products
  • L2 planning

Etcetera

Free Talk

  • ETC-Network.info deep dive into site (Screenshare)

Sign Off

See you next week, same time same place.