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No Cluster 0 #229

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esbrady opened this issue Feb 17, 2023 · 3 comments
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No Cluster 0 #229

esbrady opened this issue Feb 17, 2023 · 3 comments

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@esbrady
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esbrady commented Feb 17, 2023

Hi Ferchaure,

I was just wondering, in instances where there is a cluster 1 but no cluster 0 (see below), does this mean that the detected units that would usually fall into cluster 0 have all grouped together to form cluster 1 instead? Is it likely that this cluster represents MUA/noise rather than SUA?

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Many thanks,
Erica

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Hi Erica,

Technically cluster 0 are the spikes thar are too far away from the known templates and usually (not a real criterion) cluster 1 is the main clusters and MUA. In your case, everything is really similar to the single template found.

In my opinion:
-Try with a positive threshold I saw a few positive peaks

  • That is MUA (or maybe just noise with a peak, try increasing a the detection threshold) and oddly fast for a neuron

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esbrady commented Feb 21, 2023

Thank you, Ferchaure! This is very helpful.

Other than noticing a large number of spikes that break the refractory limit, what are some other ways you can distinguish MUA from SUA in the wave_clus output?

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It's complicated a few MU criteria could be:

  • The smallest waveform not far away from the peak... far away neurons look the same (specially when the SNR is low).
  • Different levels of noise in some samples that gives you the idea that there are more than one waveform there.

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