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The 4 Part NVC Model - Session #3 - Nonviolent Communication Training - Marshall Rosenberg

Observations, Evaluations, Developing a Literacy of Needs, and Needs vs Strategies

We're interested, in Nonviolent Communication, with the kind of honesty that supports people connecting with each other in a way that makes compassionate giving inevitable, that makes it enjoyable for people to contribute to each other's well being.

This kind of honesty basically involves telling people what's alive in us, without using any words that criticize, and tell people what would make life more wonderful for us, what we are requesting, without presenting this as a demand, but presented as a request.


NVC Training Course Session 3 Marshall Rosenberg CNVC.org - Youtube

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Contents

Introduction

Many of us have been educated by an honesty that evolves from our system of justice, retributive justice which judges people as right or wrong, good or bad. With the attachment to, that if you are good, right, appropriate, etc, you deserve to be rewarded, but if you are bad, wrong, etc. You deserve to suffer, be punished, etc.

It's my belief that that kind of thinking is the basis of violence on our planet. It's a way of thinking that makes violence enjoyable.

We're interested, in Nonviolent Communication, with the kind of honesty that supports people connecting with each other in a way that makes compassionate giving inevitable, that makes it enjoyable for people to contribute to each other's well being.

This kind of honesty basically involves telling people what's alive in us, without using any words that criticize, and tell people what would make life more wonderful for us, what we are requesting, without presenting this as a demand, but presented as a request.

(1:48)

Let's look at what kind of honesty is involved in evaluation of this kind.

First of all, it's very important to be able to made clear observations to people, that tell them what language on their part is stimulating our needs being fulfilled, and what things that are doing that are not fulfilling our needs. This is one of the hardest things for human beings to do. According to Indian philosopher Jiddu Krishnamurti it involves observing without evaluating. Which Krishnamurti says is the highest form of human intelligence, to observe without evaluating.

For example, I was working with some school administrators in the United States, in a school system, and I was teaching these principles of schools how to evaluate teachers performance. They were required to do this twice a year to evaluate teachers performances. They would observe the teachers in various situations, and then have a session with the teacher where they would evaluate the teacher.

Observation and Evaluation

In my session with these school principals, I suggested that they think of a teacher who was behaving in a way that they were not happy with, and I would show them how to evaluate that teachers behavior in a Nonviolent Communication way.

I started by asking them to think of a specific thing that this person does that you don't like.

One of the principles picked a teacher that, he said, is inconsiderate of other teachers. I pointed out that to inconsiderate is what I would call an evaluation. I was suggesting that I was asking for an observation. What does this person do, that lead you to interpret her as inconsiderate.

He thought for a while and he said, you know, she does what she wants, but doesn't think of how this might affect other people on the staff. I said again, excuse me, but you see, that is your evaluation. You're telling me what you think is going on in her, what she thinks about or doesn't think about. I was asking for specific behavior.

He thought, and thought, but was having trouble doing it.

(4:36)
The other administrators also saw the trouble they were having. How easy it was, instead of answering my question of just what does the person do, they were mixing in what they thought of the person for doing this, or how they interpreted them for doing it.

(4:54)
With my help, this administrator who judged the person as inconsiderate, named a behavior that this teacher would take her students outside for activities and have them perform these activities, sometimes outside the window of teachers who were trying to teach. He gave two or three other concrete examples of things that this teacher did that interfered with other teachers wanting to teach as they wanted to.

It took him quite a while to get to this specific behavior of what the teacher did

Other administrators also suffered through this same process. The first two or three things they tell me would be diagnoses, interpretations, criticism, but not the answer to my question of specific things the person did that they didn't like.

At this point, one of the school administrators jumped up and literally ran out of the room. Everybody looked a little confused about what might have led this man to run out of the room in this way. The next morning he came in before the others and walked up and apologize to me for his abrupt departure the previous day.

He said, the reason I ran out Marshall, that activity you did at the beginning, showing us how to make clear observations without mixing in any evaluation really helped me to understand why I always hate these evaluation procedures. I can see that by mixing up observation with evaluation, how it was easy for teachers to hear they were being criticized, but not to learn from it, by not being able to tell them specific behaviors I was referring to.

I ran out yesterday because on the way to your training, I stopped off at the school, and dropped my teacher evaluations for this period with my secretary to type up. Listening to your first session helped me to see why hate these periods, and why the teachers get so defensive. I could see that it was because I was mixing up observation and evaluation. I ran back to the school and asked the Secretary to give me back the evaluations before she went to all of the trouble of typing them up.

I then spent the whole day trying to make these evaluations, by making clear observations to the teachers, without mixing in any evaluations.

He later told me, when I went back to that school system, a few months later, how drastically different is evaluation period was this time. Instead of the teachers getting defensive, and instead of it hurting morale, how much they appreciated an evaluation in which they could clearly see what they did that was in harmony with the administrators values, and what they did that conflicted with his values.

We can learn by clear observations, but when the observations and evaluations are mixed together, so that it sounds like a criticism, it makes the evaluation period painful for both sides.

In Nonviolent Communication, we want to be sure that whenever we want to talk to somebody about something they're doing that we're not happy with, that we clearly put this in the form of an observation.

Now, this doesn't mean that that's all we do. The observation by itself doesn't tell fully what's alive in us.

Feelings and Needs

We need to let the person know how we evaluate this behavior. But we need our evaluation to be of a form that lets people know how our needs are affected by the behavior, that doesn't use any words that can be heard as criticism, judgment of a moralistic variety, or diagnosis that implies some kind of abnormality.

Our evaluation needs to be focused on the life within ourselves, which to me means it needs to contain reference to our needs. We need to let people know what needs of ours are being met or not being met by their behavior, and how we feel as a result of it. When we tell people clearly our feelings and needs, we're letting them know what's alive in us when they do what they are doing, this is an evaluation based on life, not an evaluation, criticizes or blames.

This is quite a challenging way to evaluate. Because it's not how many of us have been educated to think and communicate.

For example, this form of evaluation requires a literacy of feelings, that we tell people how we feel when they behave in a certain way.

Many times when I'm doing an exercise with people and ask them how they feel when this other person does something they don't like, they'll use language like this.

They'll say, I feel that's wrong.

And I'll point out that, by my definition, that's not what I mean by a feeling.

And they'll say, I said, 'I feel'...

I say, the word feel, by itself, can often be used in a way that doesn't refer to feelings, as I define feelings. As soon as you say, I feel that was wrong, I would call that a thought, not a feeling.

So many people use the word feeling and thought interchangeably. In Nonviolent Communication, when we use the word feeling, we want it to refer to an emotion that a person is experiencing, that doesn't contain any diagnosis or intellectual analysis of the other person.

Feelings would be,

  • I feel frustration,
  • I feel sadness,
  • I feel irritation, when our needs are not getting met.

When our needs are getting met,

  • I feel happy.
  • I feel joyful.
  • I feel pleasure.

I went to school for 21 years. I really cannot recall ever being asked what I was feeling.

Feelings weren't part of life and the culture in which I grew up in. If you are a boy, there are certain feelings that were shameful to feel, such as I feel scared. Boys weren't supposed to be scared. There were other feelings too that had a very negative connotation.

Part of the reason for this is that feelings are a language life, and the cultures that we have been living under for about 10,000 years, domination cultures in which some people claim to be superiors and have a right to control others. People do not make good slaves when they are connected to life. Feelings are not regarded as a positive thing to say. Feelings are associated with weaknesses, being immature, as being too emotional.

Not only aren't we educated to speak a language of life, a language of feelings, we have been given a cultural education that has a very negative connotation to many of our emotions.

We learn very quickly in life to cover up our emotions and hide them. Even though if we want to relate in a way that promotes compassion between ourselves and other people, feelings are a key ingredient.

In Nonviolent Communication, honesty consist of telling people what they're doing clearly in the form of a clear observation, and then evaluating it with reference to feelings and needs.

So I've just described what I mean by feelings. Then we connect these feelings to our needs.

Nonviolent Communication is based on the awareness that feelings are manifestations what's happening to our needs

(14:00)
When our needs are being fulfilled, we feel pleasureful feelings. When our needs are not being fulfilled, we feel painful feelings. This is mother nature's way of helping us to judge our environment in terms of whether what is happening is life serving or not.

If we're eating foods that are not good for our health, we feel painful kinds of reactions to this eating. On the other hand, if we feel good enriched, stronger, our feelings tell us that our needs for food have been well met by this.

Painful feelings tell us our needs are not getting met. Pleasure feelings tell us our needs are being met.

The most important part of honesty, in Nonviolent Communication, is our ability to clarify what is happening to our needs at a given moment.

We tell:

  • what the other person has done,
  • how we feel about it.

The central part of the evaluation then is to relate our feelings to our needs.

And this requires a need consciousness, and a need literacy, which is not easy to come about. Because, once again, the structures in which we have been living for a long time, require us to be educated in a way, in which, we are not connected to our needs.

People don't make good slaves to authority when they are alive and our needs are the life that's going on within us. Not only are we not educated, to speak of our needs, and to have a full vocabulary and literacy, for talking about our needs, we are given a lot of cultural training that makes it shameful to have needs.

The work I've been doing around the world in the last 40 years, many, many women tell me what difficulty they have, expressing their needs. They have been taught that loving women have no needs, they sacrifice their needs for their families.

Men tell me how difficult it is to express their needs. How they have been taught that brave men have no needs, so they're willing to sacrifice their lives for the king or for the flag.

So we have been educated in a way that gets us cut off from life, cut off from our needs

Instead of a language of life for evaluating, we have been taught to evaluate, with reference to rightness and wrongness, with criticism of people.

In our training, we suggest to be sure that you learn how to be honest without any criticism without any blame, without any judgment of a kind where people hear that what they're doing is bad or wrong.

When I say this, many people get very confused and upset with it. Their whole lives have been based on the language of good, bad, right, wrong. They see it's all about how you are judged by authority. If you're judged, right, you get rewarded, and bad, you get punished. Their whole concept of religion is to think of a God that sits up and judges people good, bad, right, wrong. When they are dead, and if they have been good enough, and they go to heaven, and if they've been bad, they go to hell.

Our whole brain, our consciousness, is shaped by this language of criticism, blame, and we're disconnected from our needs.

I was talking about this in Rome, Italy with a group of 80 teachers in Catholic schools. They were all either religious sisters or priests. The first day we spent a lot of time on this subject of how to be honest without criticizing people in a way that implies right and wrong.

The second morning when I came in, several of them were waiting for me. They told me they had been very upset by what they heard me say the day before. one of the religious sisters said to me, you destroyed everything I've ever believed, yesterday.

I said, sister, what did I say that had such an effect? She said, You said that we shouldn't judge people, you shouldn't say whether what they do is right or wrong. You shouldn't judge them. You should just let them do whatever they want. They want to steal and rob whatever, just don't judge them.

(18:58)
And I said, Thank you for telling me that's what you heard, I can see that I didn't make myself clear. I was not suggesting that we not judge or evaluate people's behavior. I was suggesting that we not judge them in a way that perpetuates retributive justice, based on the concept of punishment and reward. I think it's very important to be honest, to evaluate and judge with a language of life, which tells people whether our needs are being met, or not being met, by what they're doing.

Of course, this is not easy for people to come by, because as I say, we have not only not been encouraged to develop a language of life, a language of needs, but have been systematically educated to suppress our needs because people don't make good slaves, when they are connected to life.

Developing a literacy of needs

Much of Nonviolent Communication training is designed to helping people develop a consciousness and literacy of needs, and learning how to express these needs to others in a language that others can easily see what the need is, without hearing any criticism.

Since many people don't have this vocabulary, we have to do exercises to give them a lot of practice.

It's like learning a new language.

  • We suggest that people write down those criticism, blaming words that they have used most in their lives of other people.

They make a list of these words. For some people, selfish is one of the top words, you know, that's a selfish thing to do. Others will say, that's a stupid thing to do, or you had no right to do that.

  • We get them to list those criticism and blaming statements they have probably made the most often, in the lives of other people.

When they have this list of the most frequent criticism and judgmental words they have used,

  • we asked him to make an observation of what somebody might have done, that was a stimulus for those words.

When they have that down, we then help them to see that all criticism all blame is a tragic expression of an unmet need. That we can be more truthful by saying what the need is than any words which blame or criticize.

This is not easy because people usually do not have a language of needs. But this exercise helps them, so we get them to go down for each item on their list of their most frequently used criticisms of others.

  • When they think of what might have stimulated that, and then to translate their criticism into an unmet need,

Universal Human Needs

22:00 We suggest that everyone have at least a vocabulary of nine human needs. I picked the number nine after reading a research done by Manfred Max neef, an economist from Chile. His whole system of economics is based on human needs.

Manfred Max neef and his colleagues evaluate the success of an economy in a radically different way than we do in the United States.

In the United States, we measure the success of the measurements of the GNP, the gross national product, which essentially is how much money is made in certain areas.

That system shows that it's successful when the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.

Manfred Max-Neef approach to economic success is based on whether human needs are met by all of the parties in the culture.

Since his whole system of economy is based on human needs, he's gone to some trouble to research what are the basic human needs that need to be fulfilled, if we're to have a safe, healthy, peaceful world. He comes up with nine needs.

The success of an economic system, as he would measure it, is how well these needs are met by the everyone in the population.

That really helped me, because I had a list of about 50 words I had gathered up to develop my need vocabulary. I realized that I had several words that were different ways of saying basically the same need, and realized he's probably right that we have about nine needs we need to get real good at being able to express to other people.

Let me offer you what these nine needs are Manfred Max-Neef is talking about and I'll use more of my language, than his, but here are the needs that he comes up with.

First, Sustenance, and by that he means the basic physical needs such as food, air, water, shelter. Most people that I work with, they're pretty good at expressing those needs. I guess we do need to learn those pretty quickly or we wouldn't survive very long.

The next need that Manfred Max Neef talks about is Safety, protection.

A third need Love. A fourth need Empathy. Fifth need rest, Recreation play. Sixth need, Community, a warm community. Seventh need is Creativity.

And the last two needs are particularly important needs in terms of safety on our planet peace on our planet.

The eighth need is Autonomy. Look in the newspaper on any given day and see how many wars are going on over this need of autonomy.

We human beings have a strong need to choose our own way in life, and not to have it dictated by others. Tell us what we have to do. When they do that it threatens this very basic need of ours for autonomy. That need is alive in us from a very early age. Listen in on any family that has small children and you often hear autonomy wars going on.

The parent will say to the child, "you must do this" and the child says, No. The parents said, "Did you hear me you must do this." No. That's an autonomy war. The child is hearing demands and when we hear demands, it threatens this very basic need of us to choose our own way in life.

(26:28)
The ninth need, Viktor Frankl, the Austrian psychiatrist describes as, perhaps, the most important need. Important in the sense of our living our lives fully. He calls this a need for meaning, a need for purpose. When I'm using this word, I often describe it this way, our need to contribute to life, to see how our efforts have made people's lives richer life on the planet richer.

What I recommend to people is to get those nine needs into your own vocabulary. They may not be the words I just gave. Words that you, or the people that you're communicating with might use.

For each of these nine, try to find words that describe that in a way that you resonate to that really captures for you that need.

Then when you've developed a need vocabulary that works for you, and you may see that it may not work for the others with whom you are communicating with daily. For example, if you have a three year old in your house, the word autonomy may not work for the child, even though you may know what this word means and it resonates to your need for autonomy.

The three year old may not use the word autonomy but they have the need for autonomy because all human beings have the same needs.

That's very important. To be conscious that all human beings have the same needs.

Even though we may have different vocabularies for describing these needs, everybody has the same needs. To really connect in a way that promotes compassion between ourselves and others, we need to be able to express needs in a language that the other people can resonate to.

Fundamental Human Needs Being (qualities) Having (things) Doing (actions) Interacting (settings)
Subsistence physical and mental health food, shelter work feed, clothe, rest, work living environment, social setting
Protection care, adaptability, autonomy social security, health systems, work co-operate, plan, take care of, help social environment, dwelling
Affection respect, sense of humour, generosity, sensuality friendships, family, relationships with nature share, take care of, make love, express emotions privacy, intimate spaces of togetherness
Understanding critical capacity, curiosity, intuition literature, teachers, policies educational analyse, study, meditate, investigate
Participation receptiveness, dedication, sense of humour responsibilities, duties, work, rights cooperate, dissent, express opinions associations, parties, churches, neighbourhoods
Leisure imagination, tranquillity, spontaneity games, parties, peace of mind day-dream, remember, relax, have fun landscapes, intimate spaces, places to be alone
Creation imagination, boldness, inventiveness, curiosity abilities, skills, work, techniques invent, build, design, work, compose, interpret spaces for expression, workshops, audiences
Identity sense of belonging, self-esteem, consistency language, religions, work, customs, values, norms get to know oneself, grow, commit oneself places one
Freedom autonomy, passion, self-esteem, open-mindedness equal rights dissent, choose, run risks, develop awareness anywhere

Max-Neef Model of Human-Scale Development

Max-Neef classifies the fundamental human needs as: subsistence, protection, affection, understanding, participation, recreation (in the sense of leisure, time to reflect, or idleness), creation, identity and freedom. Needs are also defined according to the existential categories of being, having, doing and interacting, and from these dimensions, a 36 cell matrix is developed which can be filled with examples of satisfiers for those needs.

So take this list of nine need words that you resonate to the words describe the needs for you. Then, if you're living with a three year old figure out how to say each of these needs in a way that the three year old can resonate to. If you're working with street gang members, learn how to say these needs in a language that they can resonate to. If you're working with college professors, translate it into their language.

In other words, if we really want to connect with human beings in a way in which we enjoy each other and enjoy contributing to each other's well being we need to be very literate with the language of needs.

Evaluation that promotes compassionate giving

Anytime we find ourselves wanting to criticize, when we translate that criticism into our needs that isn't being met, we are far more likely to get our needs met, when we speak our needs than when we tell people what's wrong with them.

We evaluate behavior best, according to the principles of Nonviolent Communication, in a way that promotes compassionate giving, where people enjoying learning from each other.

We are more likely to promote connections of that sort, speaking clear observations, feelings, and needs.

(29:51)

Avoid words like right wrong, good, bad, appropriate, inappropriate, etc

Especially words like should shouldn't, have to, can't

When I say this, very often when I'm working with teachers, they get very uncomfortable because they can't imagine how they can do their job as teachers without using words like right, wrong, good, bad, appropriate, inappropriate.

For example, I was working with teachers in one school system on the eastern seaboard in the United States. The teachers were very confused. They said to me, Marshall, how can we go through a day without telling students whether what they're doing is right or wrong? Our job as teachers is to evaluate students and to judge their performance.

I said yes, judgments and evaluations are very helpful, if they're a language of life. But when we put it in the form of a language of right, wrong, good bad, that's promoting a system of domination that I believe is contributing to violence on the planet.

Well, they often need me to show them concretely in the situations in which they're working what this would look like. For example, in this school system that I was working with, they wanted me to take over several classes for a day, so they could see how I would evaluate students using Nonviolent Communication.

I took over some math classes, and some reading classes, for the day. The school system had me followed around with a video camera, making the videotape of what I did with the students so that this could be used to train the teachers in how to evaluate according to Nonviolent Communication, principles of evaluation. I worked with students for about four hours that day in different classes.

I went back to that school system a month later, and the superintendent of schools was talking to me before the day started and he said, that video tape you made Marshall last time showing the teachers other ways of evaluating besides using words like good, bad, normal, abnormal boy that has really motivated a lot of teachers to want to change their way of communicating.

You know, we made four hours of video tape following you around Marshall, but we only use the first 10 minutes. What you did in that first 10 minutes with a young boy really motivates teachers to change their language. I couldn't remember what happened in that first 10 minutes so he got the video tape and showed it to me. Here's what happened.

I came across a young boy who had just added up a page of a arithmetic problems that the teacher had given them to add up. This boy was nine years old. I saw that he added up nine plus 6 equals 14. Here's how I evaluated what he did. I said to him, Hey, buddy, I'm confused about how you got this answer. I get a different one. He started to cry.

(33:27)
I said, Hey, what's happening? Why are you crying? He said, I got it wrong. Notice I didn't say he had it wrong. I told him that I was confused because I had a different answer. I was wondering how he got his. But he'd already been trained for three years in a school system that makes people focus their attention on how they're judged by authority. My experience is this takes the joy out of learning when we are judged in a way that implies we're stupid if we don't get it right, and we're intelligent if we do.

Notice my evaluation enabled me to be honest. I was confused, I did get a different answer. I wanted to see how he got his and I wanted to be able to show him another way of doing it. His way and my way were different.

In Nonviolent Communication, we not only want to evaluate without any criticism or blame. We also want to evaluate without any praise or compliments. I'll be talking more about that. In the ninth session, when we talk about how to celebrate and express sincere gratitude. I hope then to show what danger exists in using praise and compliments as well as words that criticize and blame.

Clearly expressing needs

In Nonviolent Communication the focus of our attention is on needs.

We want people to see how their behavior affects human needs, whether it fulfills their own needs or not, whether it fulfills other's needs or not. It's when we are connected, in this way, to what everyone is needing that we have the greatest chance of finding ways of getting everybody's needs met.

When any criticism gets into the dialogue, any words that imply wrong, bad, stupid, etc. Instead of ending and compassionate giving, were far more likely to end in alienation, wars, etc.

After we have made clear expressions of what's alive in us, namely what we're observing, what we're feeling, what we're needing, if our need is not getting met, then we need to end on a clear request.

This request needs to make explicit what response we're wanting from the person we're speaking with at this moment.

For example, a teacher gave me this real example from her classroom. She told me that a boy had been tapping on his desk while she was talking, and this was disrupting her.

She told me, Marshall, I did just what you taught us to do in the other sessions. I told him that when I hear you tapping on the desk, I feel frustrated, because I have a need to communicate with the students right now, and this is making it hard for me.

Well, she had done a very good job of expressing what she was observing, feeling and needing. But notice, she didn't say what she wants.

I said, I don't hear a request in there. She said, that's right. I forgot, I did make a request.

I said, What was the request?

I told him, I don't want you tapping on your book while I'm talking.

And I said, then what happened?

She said he kept on his desk.

So she told him what she didn't want. She didn't want him tapping on the desk.

In Nonviolent Communication, we tell people what we do want, rather than what we don't want.

So if she had ended on a request of the kind that were advocating and Nonviolent Communication, she would have said, Would you be willing to lay your pencil down on the desk, without tapping. You can add that what you don't want, after you've said what you do. We want to make clear request after we have made our needs clear. We need to also know the difference between a wish and a clear request. A wish says generally what we would like to happen in the future.

(38:11)
So if she had said to him, I would like more awareness on your part of how this is disrupting the class. That would be a wish she would be telling him what she wants him to be aware of, but not telling him what she wants him to do at this moment.

In Nonviolent Communication when we've expressed a need that isn't met, we end on a clear request of what we want back at this moment. The request needs to be an action language.

We cannot use vague language like I want you to help me. What does that mean? In different contexts, it could mean quite different things.

So we have to say, not, I want you to help me with this problem. You have to say, tell me what you think would get my needs met in this situation. Tell me is much more specific than help me.

Requests that don't sound like demands

It's not only important that we make very clear request and clear action language. It's very important that we present the request as a request and not as a demand. Because if people hear demands, it takes much of the joy away from doing anything. It's much more likely to provoke resistance, than cooperation.

Now, it's hard for people not to hear demands, especially if they have been in situations with authorities who think it's their job to make demands and who tell people, "either do it or else". Or parents who say, "Please", maybe in a very nice way, but the child has experienced from the past that if they don't do it, in some way or other, they will be blamed or punished. Therefore, we need to make our request in a way that people trust that it is a request and not a demand.

I was asked to do some training of a group of 40 students in one school system. These students were labeled as socially and emotionally maladjusted. Now, of course, if we had been doing training in that school system before, we would have tried to make people clear about such language, it leads to self fulfilling prophecies. When you label students in a certain way, instead of getting what you would like in relationship to these students, your labels are likely to create exactly what you were diagnosing them as.

Since these students were in a class where they were labeled as socially and emotionally maladjusted, I could imagine it was going to be a pretty challenging day. It started off challenging. I walked into the room, and about half of the class was hanging out the window, screaming obscenities at their friends in a courtyard below. I had to raise my voice to be heard. I made a request.

I said, Excuse me, excuse me. I would appreciate it, if you would each come over and sit down. I'd like to tell you who I am. What I'd like to do today. I'd say maybe half the class came over, and there had been so much noise. I wasn't sure that everyone had heard me. I repeated my request. This time, everybody came over with the exception of two young men.

As my luck would have it, the two young men that didn't come over were the biggest ones in the class. I said to them, would one of you two gentlemen, please tell me what you heard me say? And one of them responded, 'you said we had to come over and sit down'. See, he was hearing a demand. I made a request. He was hearing a demand. I said, Sir, I've learned to use sir, with people who have biceps like he did.

I said, Sir, would you be willing to tell me how I could let you know what I was wanting, so it didn't sound like I was telling you what you had to do.

(42:34)
He said, huh?

I said, Could you tell me how I could let you know what I wanted in a way that didn't sound like I didn't care equally about what you want?

He stopped for a moment. I don't know.

I said just what's happening between you and me right now is much of what I want to talk about today. I believe that folks can get along much better, if they can just say, to one another, what they would like without making any demands. That's why I wanted to know how I could let you know what I wanted in a way that didn't sound like a demand. Hearing that, would you be willing to come on over and see how we could communicate in this way. That intrigued him and the two came over and we had a very productive day.

With many people, this is very hard to get them to trust that our requests are requests and not demands to whatever degree people carry memories, that when they don't do what other people want. They have been criticized guilted blamed punished. It becomes very hard to trust that when somebody says what they would like that it is a request and not a demand.

In Nonviolent Communication, we say what is alive in us, what we're observing, feeling, and needing. We make clear requests presented, as best we can, in a way that people can trust it is a request and not a demand.

Now, some messages are really hard to say in a Nonviolent Communication way. Some of these messages are very important to be able to say. For example, the word no.

Saying No

How do you say "no", in a way that's in harmony with Nonviolent Communication?

It requires saying three things.

First. When somebody requests something of you, to say no in Nonviolent Communication, we begin by showing that we receive the other person's request as a gift. They're giving us a gift when they ask us to do something. It gives us a chance to contribute to their well being. How do we do this?

Largely non verbally, by how we respond to what they've asked us to do, our nonverbal behavior will often tell people whether we're hearing it as a demand, criticism, or as a request that gives us a chance to contribute to their well being. Receiving what they have said is a gift is the first step in how to say no.

The second step, is to be aware that "no" is a poor expression of a need. Anytime a person says no, they're basically saying I have a need that keeps me from wanting to do what you have requested at this moment. To say no in a Nonviolent Communication way. We say the need that keeps us from saying yes.

If a person asked us if we would be willing to help them with cleaning up some job around the house, to say the need behind the no might go like this, he might say "right now I'm really very tired and have a need for some rest." That's saying what need keeps you, at that moment, from wanting to do what the other person has requested.

The third ingredient in saying no in a Nonviolent Communication way, is to end on a request that searches for a way to get everybody's needs met. That might sound like this in the situation where the person has asked you for some help and cleaning up the house. After saying, I'm really fatigued right now and have a need for some rest. But it'd be okay if we did this in 30 minutes after I had a chance to get some rest.

Or would you be willing to ask, and then I might say someone else around the house that I think might be willing to do it. I'd say would you be willing to ask jack if he could help you with this sense, I'd really like to get some rest now.

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So the three parts of saying no in a Nonviolent Communication way

  • first of all to show an empathic reception of the request of the other person. They feel understood that their need was understood their request was understood.
  • Second, we don't say "no", we don't say "I can't", we say the need that keeps us from saying yes.
  • we end with a request that searches for a way to get everybody's needs met.

Another message that's hard to say in a Nonviolent Communication way.

More Constructive than Criticism

How do we let people know when they're using more words than we want to hear?

How do we do that without criticizing? Of course, we all know how to interrupt another person when they're using more words when we want to hear in a violent way. We wait for them to breathe, and then we say quickly, excuse me, I just remembered my house is on fire, and we get out of the conversation as quickly as we can. Or we change the topic do anything so we don't have to listen to more words.

In Nonviolent Communication, we stop the other person when we've heard more words, and we want to hear and let them know what our needs are, excuse me, but I'm impatient right now cuz I have a need for, and then we tell them what needs are not being met by the amount of words the other person is using. Again, we end on a clear request that searches for a way to get our needs met, and the other person's needs met.

One reason I have found that people use more words than anybody wants to hear is that the speaker is not conscious of what they want back. They don't understand what their own present request is, and so they keep going on and on. Trying to get what they want, when they're not even too sure what they want in the conversation.

I can recall a very close friend that I had would often tell me at great length things that were happening to her in her workplace. One day, I said to her, you know, I find it hard to follow you, when I hear you telling all of this, but I'm not sure what you're wanting back from me. Could you tell me what your request is of me, when you are telling me these things that happened to you at work?

She thought for a moment and she said, "I thought it was important to say"

I say, "I'm confident you thought it was important to say or you wouldn't have said it. I'm not asking whether you felt it was important. I'm asking what you want back from me when you tell me these things."

She's thought for a moment, and says "I just wanted to say it. I don't want anything from you."

I said, "I see. Okay. Then is it okay if I read while you're saying it?"

She says, "do and I'll kill you."

She knew I was joking when I said, "Can I read while you say that?", but I wanted her to see, if you speak to people and you're not clear what you want back from them, it takes the energy from the conversation. It makes it confusing to know how to follow it, makes it less interesting.

She later told me that this was very helpful for her that I mentioned this. She could see why so many people didn't like talking with her and that she used far more words than she herself enjoyed using, but she just didn't know how to get clear what she wanted back.

As a result of our conversation, she started to become conscious of what she wanted back before she said anything. Then she found that she would use far less words, and much more often, get what she wanted in the conversation.

This is a very important part of Nonviolent Communication that when we reveal our honesty, what's alive in us, when we say what's going on, to be conscious of what we want back.

My prediction is, the more conscious you are what you want back in the form of what you're requesting of your listener, you use fewer words and get more understanding.

Difficult needs to get clear

Some needs are not too easy for people to get clear, what they do want back, to get these needs met.

Very often, these are very important needs to get met.

For example, I was working with a father and his 15 year old son, and this father was not getting his need for respect met in relationship with the son.

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So I said to the Father, the son was sitting there, I said,

What do you want from your son?

I want him to respect me.

I said, but in Nonviolent Communication, we use the word respect more as a need, not as a request that doesn't say clearly what you want him to do.

The son said, "Yes. I think I'm respecting you. What do you want from me to show respect?"

The father hesitated. It wasn't clear to him what he wanted back when his need for respect wasn't met. Then in a few moments, the father got it.

He started to get clear of something that really subsequently helped immensely and improving his relationship with his son.

The father said to me, "OK, Marshall, I think I'm seeing what you're trying to help us to see.

I said, "What's that?"

"I see now what I want him to do, to meet my need for respect."

And I said, "What's that?"

"I want him to jump when I say jump, and smile because he feels like jumping."

So the father could see that when he said, I want you to respect me, he really wanted obedience. He could see, then, why the son reacted so negatively when he would ask for things. It's very important with needs like respect, it's very important, to know clearly what we do want from people. Without being clear about that we often play some very oppressive games.

For example, let's take another very important need to make this point clear how, by not having clear request, we often get involved in very oppressive forms of interpersonal relationships.

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The word love

Let's look at this word love.

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I was working with a couple that was having problems in their relationship. I asked the wife, what needs of yours are not getting met?

She said, my need for love isn't getting met.

And the husband immediately said, but I love you.

I said, hold it, hold it. Let's find out what she wants from you to get her need for love met. This is a very important need.

It's not always an easy need for us to get clear what our requests are from the other person. It's important to get our request clear when we have a need for love that isn't getting met.

Research shows that different people have quite different requests to get their need for love met. What will meet one person's need for love doesn't necessarily meet another's need for love. So I said to the wife, so what specifically would you like him to do to meet your need for love?

She thought through for a few moments and she said to her husband, "well, you know"

He said, "No, I don't know if I knew I'd do it."

She said, Well, it's not easy to say so clearly what I want.

He said, if it's not easy for you to say, Can you see how hard it will be for me to do?

So she thought and thought, and then she got an embarrassed look on her face.

She said, okay, Marshall, I got your point. I see what's going on. I said, What's that? I see why I'm not getting my need for love met.

Why is that? What do you want him to do to meet your need for love?

I want him to guess what I want before I even know what it is. Then I want him always to do it.

This isn't rare.

many of us carry around very destructive strategies for getting our basic needs met.

Strategies that are destructive, first of all, because they're not possible, or secondly because they deny the needs of the other person, and require that the other person be subservient to us. It's very important to be able to say exactly what we want to meet our need for love. Very important. What do we want, to meet our need for understanding, and to express these requests in clear action language.

Now love many people use in a different way than as a need. Some people use the word love as a feeling. Nonviolent communication suggests that we use the word love solely as a need and not as a feeling. If we're trying to express emotions, then use other words beside love for describing what we are feeling.

To make this clear for people I tell a little story about a person asks their partner, "do you love me" and the partner uses Nonviolent Communication, and the partner knows how important it is to be clear what people mean by love.

So the partner says, when you ask, do I love you? Are you using the word love as a feeling?

And this person says, Yes, I use it as a feeling.

The person using Nonviolent Communication says, I see. You're asking whether I feel warm, tender, cuddly emotions toward you.

The other person said, Yes.

And then the partner says, Well, you see, we people in Nonviolent Communication, we use the word love as a need, not as a feeling. That's why I had to get this clear. But now that I know that you use the word love as a feeling, and I can see how important this is to you, I'll do my best to answer you honestly. Please ask the question again.

The person says "Do you love me?"

The person using Nonviolent Communication says, When?

The other person is shocked when they say "When?",

and the person using Nonviolent Communication says, feelings change every few seconds. How can I possibly answer you honestly, without reference to a specific time and place?

The other person says, Well, what about right now?

The person using Nonviolent Communication says, No, but try me again in a few minutes. You never know.

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So in Nonviolent Communication, I hope that story, humorous way gets you to see how important it is to use the word love as a need. Then since, it's such an important need, to be very explicit what we want from people to meet this need.

Strategies

Another thing that's very important and expressing our needs in a Nonviolent Communication way is not to get our needs confused with strategies for getting the needs met.

Here's two characteristics that will help us to differentiate between needs and requests or strategies for getting our needs met.

  • First of all needs are universal. All human beings have the same needs.
  • The second thing that differentiates a need from a strategy, a need contains no reference to specific people taking specific actions. Anytime we say "I want you to" that's not an need, that's a request or a strategy.
  • Another thing that's very important when we do express clear request, is to make sure that we are not addicted to getting what we want.

I like the way the Buddha says this, the Buddha says, never get addicted to your requests.

Let me show you what this looks like then, in a Nonviolent Communication way.

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A woman came back the second day of a workshop and said to me, I went home and tried what you taught us yesterday, Marshall about being honest in a Nonviolent Communication way. I tried it, but it didn't work. I said, let's learn from it.

What did you say and to whom? She said it was the message I gave to my oldest son. When I got home yesterday, I noticed that he had not done three things that he said he was going to do in terms of cleaning up around the house. She told me how she expressed herself honestly to him.

She told me how she made a clear observation. She pointed out to him these three things he hadn't done. She clearly expressed her feelings and needs. She made a clear request. She said, Would you please go and do those three things now? So she had clearly use the language of Nonviolent Communication.

I said, What's the problem? That sounds like you really expressed it pretty clearly.

She said he didn't do it.

Oh, I see.

Then what did you say?

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She said, I told him, You can't go through life being lazy and irresponsible.

I said, I can see that I didn't make clear yesterday, the difference between a request and a demand. It sounds like your objective was to get him to do those three things. She said, yes. I said, then that's not Nonviolent Communication.

If your intent is to get people to do what you want, that's a different intent than we need to have.

In Nonviolent Communication, it's never our objective to get what we want. It's to create the quality of connection with people that ends with everybody getting their needs met.

She said, Oh, so I'm supposed to do all the cleaning around the house, myself, and my needs don't count?

I said, now I'm glad you're checking this out. No, I'm saying that everyone's needs getting met, is the objective of Nonviolent Communication.

This doesn't require ever giving up or giving in, it just means not getting addicted to our strategy. If we're addicted to our strategy, it's very easy for the other person to hear a request as a demand, this threatens their need for autonomy, and makes it harder for them to enjoy giving. We need to say clearly what we want. But the objective is to create a connection and then which everybody's needs get met through compassionate giving.

If your objective is just to get people to do what you want, don't study Nonviolent Communication. Go to a dog obedience school and see how they train dogs.

Observations

State the observations that are leading you to feel the need to say something. These should be purely factual observations, with no component of judgment or evaluation.

Feelings

State the feeling that the observation is triggering in you. Or, guess what the other person is feeling, and ask. Naming the emotion, without moral judgment, enables you to connect in a spirit of mutual respect and cooperation. Perform this step with the aim of accurately identifying the feeling that you or the other person are experiencing in that moment, not with the aim of shaming them for their feeling or otherwise trying to prevent them from feeling as they do.

Needs

State the need that is the cause of that feeling. Or, guess the need that caused the feeling in the other person, and ask. When our needs are met, we have happy, positive feelings; when they are not met, we have negative feelings. By tuning into the feeling, you can often find the underlying need. Stating the need, without morally judging it, gives you both clarity about what is alive in you or the other person in that moment.

  • Max-Neef Model of Human-Scale Development

    Max-Neef classifies the fundamental human needs as: subsistence, protection, affection, understanding, participation, recreation (in the sense of leisure, time to reflect, or idleness), creation, identity and freedom. Needs are also defined according to the existential categories of being, having, doing and interacting, and from these dimensions, a 36 cell matrix is developed which can be filled with examples of satisfiers for those needs.

Fundamental Human Needs Being (qualities) Having (things) Doing (actions) Interacting (settings)
Subsistence physical and mental health food, shelter work feed, clothe, rest, work living environment, social setting
Protection care, adaptability, autonomy social security, health systems, work co-operate, plan, take care of, help social environment, dwelling
Affection respect, sense of humour, generosity, sensuality friendships, family, relationships with nature share, take care of, make love, express emotions privacy, intimate spaces of togetherness
Understanding critical capacity, curiosity, intuition literature, teachers, policies educational analyse, study, meditate, investigate
Participation receptiveness, dedication, sense of humour responsibilities, duties, work, rights cooperate, dissent, express opinions associations, parties, churches, neighborhoods
Leisure imagination, tranquillity, spontaneity games, parties, peace of mind day-dream, remember, relax, have fun landscapes, intimate spaces, places to be alone
Creation imagination, boldness, inventiveness, curiosity abilities, skills, work, techniques invent, build, design, work, compose, interpret spaces for expression, workshops, audiences
Identity sense of belonging, self-esteem, consistency language, religions, work, customs, values, norms get to know oneself, grow, commit oneself places one
Freedom autonomy, passion, self-esteem, open-mindedness equal rights dissent, choose, run risks, develop awareness anywhere

4. Requests

Make a concrete request for action to meet the need just identified. Ask clearly and specifically for what you want right now, rather than hinting or stating only what you don't want.

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Resources

  • Jiddu Krishnamurti - Think on these things - Goodreads
  • Observing Without the "Me" - First Public Talk given by J. Krishnamurti.

    . . . to look at myself without any formula--can one do that? Otherwise you can't learn about yourself obviously. If I say, I am jealous, the very verbalization of that fact, or of that feeling, has already conditioned it. Right? Therefore I cannot see anything further in it. . . . Now the question is: can the mind be free of this egocentric activity? Right? That is really the question, not whether it is so or not. Which means can the mind stand alone, uninfluenced? Alone, being alone does not mean isolation. Sir, look: when one rejects completely all the absurdities of nationality, the absurdities of propaganda, of religious propaganda, rejects conclusions of any kind, actually, not theoretically, completely put aside, has understood very deeply the question of pleasure and fear, and division--the 'me' and the 'not me'--is there any form of the self at all?