Fallout 76 (1151340)

[NTMan]

Compatibility Report

• Name of the game with compatibility issues: Fallout 76
• Steam AppID of the game: 1151340

System Information

• GPU: AMD Radeon 7
• Driver/LLVM version: Mesa 20.0.99/11.0.0
• Kernel version: 5.7
• Link to full system information
• Proton version: 5.0-6-rc3

I confirm:

• that I haven't found an existing compatibility report for this game.
• that I have checked whether there are updates for my system available.

steam-1151340.log

Symptoms

1. The game crashes after creating avatar.
   Adding WINEDLLOVERRIDES=winedbg.exe=d %command% to launch options helps workaround this issue.
2. In the game, is not heard NPC speech.
   $ protontricks 1151340 faudio helps workaround this issue.
3. In the Atom store, all items show up as "Free" regardless of their actual price.
   

Reproduction

Always.

[giantrat]

Oh thank god, I'm getting this as well.
steam-1151340.log

[fls2018]

This was an issue in wine with the photo mode last time I checked.

This stops it from crashing when taking photos, photos won't save though:

WINEDLLOVERRIDES=winedbg.exe=d %command%

[giantrat]

Will try that out, thanks!

[fls2018]

I'm unsure how that'll work with new accounts though.

[giantrat]

I'm unsure how that'll work with new accounts though.

Seemed to work! Now I just have to figure out how to make the game ok with alt tabbing.

[fls2018]

Do photos save on the steam version via ingame photo mode? I'm still downloading so can't check.

[giantrat]

Do photos save on the steam version via ingame photo mode? I'm still downloading so can't check.

I’ll let you know next time I crash :)

[NTMan]

This was an issue in wine with the photo mode last time I checked.

This stops it from crashing when taking photos, photos won't save though:

WINEDLLOVERRIDES=winedbg.exe=d %command%

Thanks, it helps.
Second issue: In the game, I do not hear NPC speech.

[fls2018]

This was an issue in wine with the photo mode last time I checked.
This stops it from crashing when taking photos, photos won't save though:
WINEDLLOVERRIDES=winedbg.exe=d %command%

Thanks, it helps.
Second issue: In the game, I do not hear NPC speech.

That'll probably be FAudio, same issues as FO4/Skyrim needs self compiled faudio with wma support.

Do photos save on the steam version via ingame photo mode? I'm still downloading so can't check.

I’ll let you know next time I crash :)

Actually you can just go into photo mode & the gallery through the ingame menu. The photo mode is sort of important due to the way it's integrated with your ingame avatar/banners etc.

There was some permissions/anti virus issue using wine with bethesda.net version, I'm wondering whether that's still the case with steam.

[kisak-valve]

Fallout 76 (1151340)

Issue transferred from #3767.
@Freso posted on 2020-04-14T14:20:45:

Compatibility Report

• Name of the game with compatibility issues: Fallout 76
• Steam AppID of the game: 1151340

System Information

• GPU: GTX 1070
• Driver/LLVM version: nvidia 440.66.08
• Kernel version: Linux din 5.6.3-arch1-1 #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed, 08 Apr 2020 07:47:16 +0000 x86_64 GNU/Linux
• Link to full system information report as Gist: https://gist.github.com/Freso/593a4ae7878a6a674f1094ebea8a8f56
• Proton version: Proton 5.0-5

I confirm:

• that I haven't found an existing compatibility report for this game.
• that I have checked whether there are updates for my system available.

Symptoms

When you enter into the Atom store, all items show up as "Free" regardless of their actual price.

Reproduction

1. Open game
2. Go into Atom store

Note: This is possibly (exactly?) the same issue as what I described in #4 (comment) and it has been an issue with Fallout 76 under Wine for probably as long I at least have been able to run the game under Wine, regardless of what Wine version.

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@Freso commented on 2020-04-14T14:57:35:

Looks like #3766 was opened while I was typing up this report, so I guess this can be closed as duplicate.

[giantrat]

Get that atom shop error as well, have no idea what causes that.

[D33pfield]

That'll probably be FAudio, same issues as FO4/Skyrim needs self compiled faudio with wma support.

Can you elaborate on this more? I have everything working but the sound.

Edit: I have got the sound working correctly following this guide! https://github.com/FNA-XNA/FAudio/wiki/FAudio-for-Proton

[fls2018]

That'll probably be FAudio, same issues as FO4/Skyrim needs self compiled faudio with wma support.

Can you elaborate on this more? I have everything working but the sound.

Edit: I have got the sound working correctly following this guide! https://github.com/FNA-XNA/FAudio/wiki/FAudio-for-Proton

FAudio included with Proton doesn't include FFmpeg support for wma decoding due to licensing issues, therefore you need to replace it with one built with the options enabled.

Three main ways of doing it:

1/ The official way of building faudio for proton here: https://github.com/FNA-XNA/FAudio/wiki/FAudio-for-Proton

2/ Install faudio via protontricks (I'm pretty sure this method replaces the dll's in the prefix so something to keep an eye on).

3/ If you have a distro that has FAudio in it's repository (like Manjaro) it will most likely have ffmpeg support and you can point to it via: LD_PRELOAD=/path/to/libFAudio.so.0 %command%, you can also use this command to point to custom build faudio,

[GhChancellor]

Sound:
With

WINEDLLOVERRIDES="xaudio2_7=n,b" %command%

i can hear the sounds but i can't hear the music. Only the video seems work well

Game:
it's goes to crash after a minute

[fls2018]

Sound:
With

WINEDLLOVERRIDES="xaudio2_7=n,b" %command%

i can hear the sounds but i can't hear the music. Only the video seems work well

Game:
it's goes to crash after a minute

Because just using native xaudio doesn't fix it, you need faudio as mentioned above.

Also the crash fix by disabling wine debug as mentioned above.

Update: Just to add photomode doesn't save pictures even with the crash fix, also steam overlay is not working.

[angelprada]

WINEDLLOVERRIDES=winedbg.exe=d %command%

Fixes photomode

[fls2018]

WINEDLLOVERRIDES=winedbg.exe=d %command%

Fixes photomode

It still doesn't save pictures in the gallery (for your avatar etc), only fixes the crash.

[GhChancellor]

with Proton-5.6-GE-2 the sound and music work well

WINEDLLOVERRIDES=winedbg.exe=d %command%
Fixes photomode

It still doesn't save pictures in the gallery (for your avatar etc), only fixes the crash.

it's the same for me

[giantrat]

Can we in no way use the atomic shop?

Edit: Atomic Shop works, prices just don’t show.

[HK47196]

With regards to the atomic shop, I found this post on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/fo76/comments/d2m5pt/linuxwine_compatibility/

So, I've successfully been playing on ultra quality on both arch and ubuntu, however, I cannot get the prices in the atomic shop to update. It's saying everything is free, and when I attempt to make a purchase it says something about the store being updated and to try again later. Has anyone else had luck getting the atomic shop to correctly display prices on linux?

I fixed my own issue 🤷🏻‍♂️ for anyone curious, install the latest d3d9 and vcrun2015.

Didn't fix it for me, maybe someone else will have better luck/point them in the right direction.

[fls2018]

With regards to the atomic shop, I found this post on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/fo76/comments/d2m5pt/linuxwine_compatibility/

So, I've successfully been playing on ultra quality on both arch and ubuntu, however, I cannot get the prices in the atomic shop to update. It's saying everything is free, and when I attempt to make a purchase it says something about the store being updated and to try again later. Has anyone else had luck getting the atomic shop to correctly display prices on linux?

I fixed my own issue 🤷🏻‍♂️ for anyone curious, install the latest d3d9 and vcrun2015.

Didn't fix it for me, maybe someone else will have better luck/point them in the right direction.

Don't know what they mean "latest d3d9" as it's a DX11 title, also tried vcrun2015 no dice.

[HK47196]

With regards to the atomic shop, I found this post on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/fo76/comments/d2m5pt/linuxwine_compatibility/

So, I've successfully been playing on ultra quality on both arch and ubuntu, however, I cannot get the prices in the atomic shop to update. It's saying everything is free, and when I attempt to make a purchase it says something about the store being updated and to try again later. Has anyone else had luck getting the atomic shop to correctly display prices on linux?

I fixed my own issue 🤷🏻‍♂️ for anyone curious, install the latest d3d9 and vcrun2015.

Didn't fix it for me, maybe someone else will have better luck/point them in the right direction.

Don't know what they mean "latest d3d9" as it's a DX11 title, also tried vcrun2015 no dice.

After closer inspection, it does actually load directx 9 libraries. I think it's libcef that's using them and also being used to render the atom shop.

[HK47196]

While trying to get the atomic shop to work I've accidentally stumbled upon a rather big performance/stability increase, much less stuttering. I'm not sure which of this caused it, but this was what I did:
I renamed all the redistributable DLLs in the Fallout76 folder(and the bin64) folder within to make sure they weren't being loaded. Not all of them are redistributable DLLs FYI. Any of the ones ending in *140.dll and the d3dcompiler dlls, IIRC. *140.dlls are the ones provided by the Visual Studio 2015 redistributable which FO76 has chosen to distribute with their game.
I also removed the default overrides proton provides in winecfg(again, just trying random things to see if I can get the atomic shop to work)
then I used protontricks to install the visual studio 2015 redistributable(vcrun2015)

Didn't fix the atomic shop, but one of these caused the game to stutter far, far less.

[HK47196]

With regards to the atomic shop:
A similar issue seems to happen with FO4 and Skyrim SE's creation club
refer: #4 (comment)

I assume it's related?

[FelixWolf]

Getting random crashes(Doesn't crash to desktop, main thread crashes, audio thread still running).
I have noticed that it likes to crash whenever there is a overlay element, such as a steam notification, or dbus notifications. Disabling notifications and steam notifications while playing tends to help, but it will still crash at random when moving around.
steam-1151340.log

Running in windowed/borderless window appears to cause framerate issues.
Running with vsync enabled tends to cause loading in to freeze.

I am running it with PROTON_LOG=1 WINEDLLOVERRIDES=winedbg.exe=d %command%

[kisak-valve]

Fallout 76 (1151340)

Issue transferred from #4030.
@TheChriZ posted on 2020-06-28T07:24:48:

Photo Mode does not save Photos. The folder it is supposed to save them stays empty and so does the ingame gallery and I can not create a Character Picture. Also when I am in photo mode I can only shoot a photo once, afterwards it does nothing when I am hitting spacebar only if I re-enter photo mode.
This problem might not be Linux/Proton specific as I have read about issues like this happen on Windows 10 too and the solution seemed to be disabling the Anti-Virus.
How could this be solved on Linux?

[techmouse]

I'll test this again sometime. The major issue I had was this odd stutter that would happen in interiors (indoor levels). Would cause me to miss shots even. Was very similar to frame skipping but with a micro pause in between,.

If you're talking about what I think you're talking about, then the issue is with the enlighten engine. The settings are way too high and it makes the game very laggy and sluggish in indoors areas, including the outdoor 'indoor' areas.

Just to experiment, try putting this in your Fallout76Custom.ini:

[Enlighten]
bEnableEnlighten=1
fEnlightenCubemapsDist=0.000000
fEnlightenCubemapsFadeStart=0.000000
fEnlightenVoxelSceneCubemapsDist=0.000000
fEnlightenVoxelSceneCubemapsDistCulled=0.000000
bEnlightenLimiterEnabled=1
bEnlightenCubemapTiledShader=1
bEnlightenEnableFade=0
bEnableEnlightenDistantData=0
bEnableEnlightenEnvMaps=0

If the problem is resolved, then you can try modifying the settings below until you get it where you like it.

[Enlighten]
bEnableEnlighten=1
fEnlightenCubemapsDist=1000.000000
fEnlightenCubemapsFadeStart=700.000000
fEnlightenVoxelSceneCubemapsDist=3000.000000
fEnlightenVoxelSceneCubemapsDistCulled=700.000000
bEnlightenLimiterEnabled=1
bEnlightenCubemapTiledShader=1
bEnlightenEnableFade=1
bEnableEnlightenDistantData=0
bEnableEnlightenEnvMaps=0

Alternatively you can turn the enlighten engine off with bEnableEnlighten=0 but I would advise against that because it makes all bodies of water in the game white, so it looks like milk. And naturally this is a problem if you have mirelurks hiding below the surface.

That said, the game is so sluggish and the framerate is so awful that I'm still tempted to turn it completely off anyways.

[jarrard]

it was not lag, but actual CPU/GPU heart attacks.

[SeraphisCain]

Replying to #3766 (comment)

So I'd been having this issue for a few months (ever since I started playing), and had been using similar ini settings to the ones you posted to get around it. The problem being, of course, that Enlighten settings that low would cause lighting effects to pop in at incredibly short distances, which looks awful. However, today's new GE Proton release (6.4-GE-1) seems to have fixed the issue. Normally with no Enlighten settings in the ini, somewhere like Riverside Manor would frequently drop into single digit FPS. With the new GE Proton, and no ini settings, those frame drops no longer happen. I also tested Vault-Tec Agricultural Research Center, since you mentioned it in your post from November, with the same results. Previous Proton versions had the same extreme FPS drops, 6.4-GE-1 had only what I'd consider "normal" FO76 drops. I've tested it multiple times now by switching between 6.4-GE-1 and older Proton releases, but I'd appreciate if someone else who has experienced this issue could test it as well with no Enlighten ini settings applied just to confirm that it's fixed.

[techmouse]

Replying to #3766 (comment)

I tested the new GE with the enlighten engine turned off around the Palace of the Winding Path and it seems like it's an improvement. But it's hard for me to gauge that right now because I'm being hit by the colossal framerate bug that popped up with the last big update and is mostly affecting people who aren't on win10. The claim is that Bethesda has a fix for that bug and will release it around April 27. So maybe I can more accurately test it then?

I don't know why Bethesda would wait over a full month before releasing a confirmed fix...

[boniek83]

I wanted to test out Fallout 76 due to free weekend and experience is terrible. First of all you have to install faudio by hand using protontricks to get most of the audio back (this should be done by Steam when installing the game). Upon game launch game started in 21:9 aspect ratio (I have 16:9 monitor). Besides that there is this awful frame stuttering when moving mouse that I can't get rid of. This is not present when just using wasd and lowering graphical preset changes nothing, it happens indoors and outdoors. Unplayable. 1080ti@470.74/3900x/32GB/pcie4 nvme/Proton 6.3-7/Fedora 34, kernel with fsync

https://gist.github.com/boniek83/3e63cbd030160f0ba6b07677b798b231

[boniek83]

Setting iPresentInterval to zero and setting vsync to on in mangohud helped. I have gsync monitor if that makes a difference.

[jarrard]

Managed to reduce the issue considerably which may make game playable. Still performance is not great in this game and you'll likely need a custom ini setup. Ended up with proton via steam in end and using steamtinkerlauncher with FSR enabled and a few other things.

Seems disabling Enlighten is the best solution for solving my outdoor stutters. (a tiny bit)

Unfortunately in areas the weird framerate pulsing comes back, inspect the green line in the below screenshot to understand. If its flat, its good, if its like that, very annoying to play!

Spent a few hours now messing with different ini settings and proton launch parameters without too much luck. Its possible to reduce this issue but eliminating it completely seems not possible.

UPDATE: It's possible that proton GE is causing the problem here.... If you get this kind of annoying issue give EXPERIMENTAL a shot in a fresh prefix!

[jarrard]

Tested with Wine, Wine-staging, TKG, ProtonGE, WineGE and the stutter exists. HOWEVER using stock proton or experimental the stutter does not exist... (example below)

I would build my own proton to explore this issue more but my knowledge level is far too low at this point in time to do so. (and its super time consuming)

Lets hope the mainline proton builds don't introduce this bug/issue as its 100% illusive atm and a potential landmine as it affects other games, not just fo76!

PS. AFAIK this is not a nvapi64 issue as its disabled by default and I've also done so manually.

[lolo2438]

Used to work as @jarrard stated, but since latest Manjaro update (5.13.19-2-MANJARO), it's no longer launching.
Using proprietary nvidia drivers version 495.44

Here is my proton trace log:
https://paste-bin.xyz/1824

[lolo2438]

Fixed my issue by re-installing FAudio (20.07):
https://github.com/Kron4ek/FAudio-Builds

With command
WINEPREFIX="$HOME/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/1151340/pfx" ./wine_setup_faudio.sh

Can't there be a simpler way were there is no need to install these precompiled .dll ?

[kisak-valve]

Fallout 76 start up crash

Issue transferred from #5740.
@Paperozza posted on 2022-04-01T13:47:45:

Compatibility Report

• Name of the game with compatibility issues: Fallout 76
• Steam AppID of the game:1151340

System Information

• GPU: RTX 3060
• Driver/LLVM version: 510.154
• Kernel version: 5.16.15-76051615-generic
• Link to full system information report as Gist: https://gist.github.com/Paperozza/22daef35881e6f0af305e05c2c848ecd
• Proton version: Experimental

I confirm:

• that I haven't found an existing compatibility report for this game.
• that I have checked whether there are updates for my system available.

Symptoms

Every time I try to launch the game it crashes.

Reproduction

steam-1151340.log

[Blisto91]

@Paperozza Does it work if you launch with this option for the game?

VK_ICD_FILENAMES=/usr/share/vulkan/icd.d/nvidia_icd.json %command%

[Paperozza]

YES IT WORKS. thank you so much!!!

[Blisto91]

Np. I think the game was trying to use your intel iGPU

[kattjevfel]

I have the weirdest issue with this game, if I run it without any launch options, it uses almost 1500% CPU and the game runs at 7fps. However, if I set PROTON_LOG=1, all is well and I get 60fps! How do I even begin to troubleshoot this?
Screenshot showing 1468% CPU usage when just loading the game

zipped log (was 153.6 MiB):
steam-1151340.zip
Note that with the log enabled everything works as expected, but figured it might contain something of value still.

System information: https://gist.github.com/kattjevfel/26610edfa653b846c46e04b7479bb846
This is with Proton 7.0-2.

[Blisto91]

This should be what PROTON_LOG=1 does afaik.

Setting some logging environment variables.

[kattjevfel]

It seems setting WINEDEBUG to anything other than the default of -all works, I set WINEDEBUG=+timestamp and it fixes the absurd CPU usage and framerate.

Very minimal log generated with the above options:
steam-1151340.log

[jorgicio]

I'm using Endeavour OS and I have a GTX 1650. Nvidia drivers updated to 525.78.01, and tried with several games and they work flawlessly, but Fallout 76. Since this update (I think), it stutters too much.

Tried with Proton-GE, Experimental and Stable. Tried both open source and privative, and several kernels. But today, since this update, F76 stutters too much at the point that it freezes, so I have to kill the process from Steam.

I don't know if this is happening to anyone else.

[jarrard]

I haven't played game for quite a while but I use to get stutter issues sometimes on and off.

Unfortunately I don't see myself returning to this game until it goes offline and allows for total conversions because I don't like the direction game has taken with several systems atm. PLUS FO4 is receiving a next-gen patch soon.

[stevenlafl]

I can't get it to launch at all. https://gist.github.com/stevenlafl/baf1afa00a6357bb11c10750e3a68d27

[jarrard]

Z:\media\stevenlafl\Data1\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common

Be sure that is setup correctly if NTFS (requires specific permissions and config in disk mounting options)
If its a linux partition then it still can need permissions set for the mount.
Additionally compat data should be symlinked to the native steam directory.

Sometimes certain games can be more sensitive to disk/system configuration then others.

[stevenlafl]

@jarrard I appreciate the response and consideration of my NTFS setup, and that is a step I have taken already given the majority of my library is on my NTFS drive to share with a Windows dual boot.

I took another look this morning, and I think that the problem was that somehow files were missing, as it launches now after both a restart and verifying the game integrity. I feel that was an obvious step I missed until recently, so I admit to posting a bit hastily.

Thank you again.

[IOTech17]

Compatibility Report

Name of the game with compatibility issues: Fallout 76
Steam AppID of the game: 1151340
System Information
GPU: Nvidia RTX 3070 Laptop GPU
Driver/LLVM version: Nvidia 525.85.05
Kernel version: 6.2.0-76060200-generic
Proton version: experimental/7.0.6/proton-ge-7-49 and 50

I confirm:
that I haven't found an existing compatibility report for this game.
that I have checked whether there are updates for my system available.

Symptoms

First issue : the game see the Nvidia GPU and refuse to use it, had to force the game to be rendered on the Nvidia GPU using this parameters : DRI_PRIME=1 DXVK_FILTER_DEVICE_NAME="NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU" %command%
It is the only game where I have to use this parameters.

Second issue :
Once the first issue is resolved I had to disable the vsync in the fallout73.ini file other the game sutter massively

Third issue :
Once the two above issue are resolved, the game is playable, however the GPU and CPU usage are low and the frametime is all over the place.

Please find the proton log 230mb : https://transfer.sh/rpCyWg/steam-1151340.log

[IOTech17]

Did anybody checked the logs I sent?

[thesaikis]

@IOTech17

I had a similar experience with a few differences:

1. I never had to set DXVK_FILTER_DEVICE_NAME.
2. I experienced massive stutters whether or not iPresentInterval was set to 0 or 1. However, it seemed like having it set to 0 was minimally better.
3. I experienced low GPU and CPU usage along with extremely inconsistent frames and massive stuttering, even worse than what you have in your screenshot. I found it completely unplayable.

The solution for me was to go from kernel "6.5.0-28-generic" to "5.15.0-105-generic". The game now runs very smoothly, using Proton Experimental. I wasn't able to take a look at your logs (I wouldn't know what to even look for).

I've noticed a number of other NVIDIA users using kernel 6+ describing a similar experience with frames/stuttering, and I'm wondering if anyone else with this issue could see if its fixed by using kernel 5.15.

Specs when game wasn't working:
OS: Linux Mint 21.3
KERNEL: 6.5.0-28-generic
CPU: Intel Core i9-14900KF
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090
GPU DRIVER: NVIDIA 535.171.04
RAM: 32 GB

Specs with game working now:
OS: Linux Mint 21.3
KERNEL: 5.15.0-105-generic
CPU: Intel Core i9-14900KF
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090
GPU DRIVER: NVIDIA 535.171.04
RAM: 32 GB

[jarrard]

Is this related to Explicit Sync issue? Might run better once ALL that gets merged next month. Also nvidia needs to release a driver update with it.

[kisak-valve]

Hello @thesaikis, it might be interesting to test how the game behaves with your 6.5 kernel and the game's launch options set to PROTON_NO_FSYNC=1 %command%. The kernel side to support that was added in 5.16. If that substantially helps for you, then please add a note to #4568 with your findings.

[thesaikis]

@kisak-valve unfortunately I didn't see a noticeable difference with PROTON_NO_FSYNC disabled or enabled when using 6.5