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Create a way to link sentences in the same language with the same meaning. #3084

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ckjpn opened this issue Oct 7, 2023 · 1 comment
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ckjpn commented Oct 7, 2023

The Reasons

  • Those translating one sentence could easily find other sentences with the same meaning, in the same way they can now see indirectly-linked sentences.
  • Those browsing sentences who have linking rights could easily see such sentences and link them.
  • It would be useful to developers using our data to be able to find sentences with the same meaning linked together. While we can harvest pre-existing links from the links.cvs file, we don't get any such new links.
  • It would improve tatoeba.org if there were some way to create such links, since very likely more bilingual links would be created.

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We used to create links to sentences in the same language that had the exact same meaning using the existing linking system.

With the introduction of the new layout, the heading "Translations" was added above directly-linked sentences.

TRANG then asked us not to create links between sentences in the same language since these wouldn't be considered translations.

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#2107
It's inaccurate to label same language sentences as "Translations"

To anyone working on this.

I, and perhaps a few others, have added many comments starting with "Same meaning:" following by 2 linefeeds. After creating a method to link such sentences, you could harvest all these links from comments and link the sentences together. You can download all the comments here: https://downloads.tatoeba.org/exports/comments.tar.bz2

As comments, these are not so useful for the average user, since a user needs to actually be on the page with the comment to see the link. Also, usually these comments are only on one of the sentences and not both.

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Would this functionality apply to the download files as well (a sentence will also display equivalent sentences), or only as displayed on the Tatoeba page? This would change to what extent you'd like the change to be.

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