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Remove wikiless? #409

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f478ccf2 opened this issue Feb 6, 2023 · 6 comments
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Remove wikiless? #409

f478ccf2 opened this issue Feb 6, 2023 · 6 comments

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@f478ccf2
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f478ccf2 commented Feb 6, 2023

I mean, the main outlines of this project is:

  1. No JavaScript or ads.
  2. All requests go through the backend, client never talks to Wikipedia.
  3. Prevents Wikipedia getting your IP address.
  4. Self-hostable. Anyone can setup a private or public instance.

1 - Wikipedia works completely fine without JavaScript, and since when did Wikipedia have ads?
2 - I don't see the problem here. This applies to every website, use a VPN (self host with Algo if you want)
3 - I still don't see the problem. All websites see your IP address, use a VPN
4 - What benefit does this give?

How is Wikipedia different from any site on the internet? I understand websites like Twitter and Reddit having self hosted front-ends (because they're laden with trackers, unnecessary JavaScript, and are quite slow), but Wikipedia? What makes Wikipedia so special to need its own private frontend? What is the motive? Why not create a frontend for every single site on the internet then?

It seems a little pointless to me.

@citizenserious
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citizenserious commented Feb 9, 2023

Wikiless has been taken down from Codeberg (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33101301)

@sjehuda
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sjehuda commented Mar 26, 2023

an already perfectly okay non tracking website

Says who?
How can you know?
Did you read the campaign of (defunct) Scroogle (scroogle.org) at the time when they revealed that the "already safe" website shares (no sells) private information with notorious companies?

In any case, I'll do my best to keep Wikiless featured in my project.

@f478ccf2
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And I can argue the same for my side. Wikipedia has been secretly infiltrated by the NSA and is collecting all your personal data?
Says who?
How can you know?

@sjehuda
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sjehuda commented Mar 27, 2023 via email

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f478ccf2 commented Apr 11, 2023

I agree. I've edited my issue, to be more clear and concise about my issue with WikiLess.

@zekooooo
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One argument in favor of Wikiless is it can use the (old) desktop UI.

That one is a real pain to use on Wikipedia without registering, they never added something like old.reddit and they want you to register if you want to use it regularly.

I even prefer it over m.wikipedia on my phone when the page is long

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