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SVT: Application keeps on restarting in Dev mode without making any changes to the app #1755

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rumanaHaque opened this issue Nov 9, 2023 · 9 comments
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SVT: Application keeps on restarting in Dev mode without making any changes to the app #1755

rumanaHaque opened this issue Nov 9, 2023 · 9 comments
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I have the ACME application - that I imported in my workspace and start using the Start menu of the Liberty Dashboard.
After starting the application - I see that the app was started, but it keeps on restarting and updating, even though I do not make any changes to my application or the configuration.
c:\eclipse-workspace\acme-ee10\acme-ee\AcmeWebEjbEar>mvn liberty:dev

I get some of the following output:

[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKF0012I: The server installed the following features: [appClientSupport-2.0, appSecurity-5.0, cdi-4.0, connectors-2.1, distributedMap-1.0, enterpriseBeans-4.0, enterpriseBeansHome-4.0, enterpriseBeansLite-4.0, enterpriseBeansPersistentTimer-4.0, enterpriseBeansRemote-4.0, expressionLanguage-5.0, federatedRegistry-1.0, jdbc-4.2, jndi-1.0, json-1.0, jsonb-3.0, jsonp-2.1, jwt-1.0, ldapRegistry-3.0, localConnector-1.0, mdb-4.0, messaging-3.1, messagingClient-3.0, messagingSecurity-3.0, messagingServer-3.0, microProfile-6.0, monitor-1.0, mpConfig-3.0, mpFaultTolerance-4.0, mpHealth-4.0, mpJwt-2.1, mpMetrics-5.0, mpOpenAPI-3.1, mpRestClient-3.0, mpTelemetry-1.0, pages-3.1, persistence-3.1, persistenceContainer-3.1, restfulWS-3.1, restfulWSClient-3.1, servlet-6.0, ssl-1.0, transportSecurity-1.0, xmlBinding-4.0, xmlWS-4.0].
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKF0011I: The defaultServer server is ready to run a smarter planet. The defaultServer server started in 57.247 seconds.
[INFO] CWWKM2015I: Match number: 1 is [11/9/23, 14:18:25:609 PST] 00000034 com.ibm.ws.kernel.feature.internal.FeatureManager            A CWWKF0011I: The defaultServer server is ready to run a smarter planet. The defaultServer server started in 57.247 seconds..
[INFO] ************************************************************************
[INFO] *    Liberty is running in dev mode.
[INFO] *        Automatic generation of features: [ Off ]
[INFO] *        h - see the help menu for available actions, type 'h' and press Enter.
[INFO] *        q - stop the server and quit dev mode, press Ctrl-C or type 'q' and press Enter.
[INFO] *
[INFO] *    Liberty server port information:
[INFO] *        Liberty server HTTP port: [ 9080 ]
[INFO] *        Liberty debug port: [ 7777 ]
[INFO] ************************************************************************

[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0016I: Web application available (default_host): http://mum1.fyre.ibm.com:9080/AcmeAnnuityEJB3JAXWS/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0016I: Web application available (default_host): http://mum1.fyre.ibm.com:9080/AcmeAnnuityEJB3JAXWS_CDI/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0016I: Web application available (default_host): http://mum1.fyre.ibm.com:9080/AcmeAnnuityWeb/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0016I: Web application available (default_host): http://mum1.fyre.ibm.com:9080/AnnuityJAXRS20/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0016I: Web application available (default_host): http://mum1.fyre.ibm.com:9080/AnnuityJAXRS11M1/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0016I: Web application available (default_host): http://mum1.fyre.ibm.com:9080/AnnuityJAXRS11M2/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0016I: Web application available (default_host): http://mum1.fyre.ibm.com:9080/AnnuityPojoWSes/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKZ0001I: Application AcmeWebEjbEar started in 64.139 seconds.
[INFO] [WARNING ] Settings: Could not parse struts.locale setting, substituting default VM locale

However, if I use the Liberty Tools to do the same thing - I see that the app doesn't start, and immediately, and it keeps on restarting

[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0016I: Web application available (default_host): http://mum1.fyre.ibm.com:9080/ibm/api/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0016I: Web application available (default_host): http://mum1.fyre.ibm.com:9080/jwt/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0016I: Web application available (default_host): http://mum1.fyre.ibm.com:9080/health/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0016I: Web application available (default_host): http://mum1.fyre.ibm.com:9080/metrics/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0016I: Web application available (default_host): http://mum1.fyre.ibm.com:9080/openapi/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0016I: Web application available (default_host): http://mum1.fyre.ibm.com:9080/openapi/ui/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKZ0022W: Application AcmeWebEjbEar has not started in 30.002 seconds.
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKF0012I: The server installed the following features: [appClientSupport-2.0, appSecurity-5.0, cdi-4.0, connectors-2.1, distributedMap-1.0, enterpriseBeans-4.0, enterpriseBeansHome-4.0, enterpriseBeansLite-4.0, enterpriseBeansPersistentTimer-4.0, enterpriseBeansRemote-4.0, expressionLanguage-5.0, federatedRegistry-1.0, jdbc-4.2, jndi-1.0, json-1.0, jsonb-3.0, jsonp-2.1, jwt-1.0, ldapRegistry-3.0, localConnector-1.0, mdb-4.0, messaging-3.1, messagingClient-3.0, messagingSecurity-3.0, messagingServer-3.0, microProfile-6.0, monitor-1.0, mpConfig-3.0, mpFaultTolerance-4.0, mpHealth-4.0, mpJwt-2.1, mpMetrics-5.0, mpOpenAPI-3.1, mpRestClient-3.0, mpTelemetry-1.0, pages-3.1, persistence-3.1, persistenceContainer-3.1, restfulWS-3.1, restfulWSClient-3.1, servlet-6.0, ssl-1.0, transportSecurity-1.0, xmlBinding-4.0, xmlWS-4.0].
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKF0011I: The defaultServer server is ready to run a smarter planet. The defaultServer server started in 48.562 seconds.
[INFO] CWWKM2015I: Match number: 1 is [11/9/23, 14:25:13:565 PST] 0000002a com.ibm.ws.kernel.feature.internal.FeatureManager            A CWWKF0011I: The defaultServer server is ready to run a smarter planet. The defaultServer server started in 48.562 seconds..
[INFO] ************************************************************************
[INFO] *    Liberty is running in dev mode.
[INFO] *        Automatic generation of features: [ Off ]
[INFO] *        h - see the help menu for available actions, type 'h' and press Enter.
[INFO] *        q - stop the server and quit dev mode, press Ctrl-C or type 'q' and press Enter.
[INFO] *
[INFO] *    Liberty server port information:
[INFO] *        Liberty server HTTP port: [ 9080 ]
[INFO] *        Liberty server HTTPS port: [ 9443 ]
[INFO] *        Liberty debug port: [ 7777 ]
[INFO] ************************************************************************
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[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0016I: Web application available (default_host): http://mum1.fyre.ibm.com:9080/AcmeAnnuityEJB3JAXWS/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0016I: Web application available (default_host): http://mum1.fyre.ibm.com:9080/AcmeAnnuityEJB3JAXWS_CDI/
[INFO] Running unit tests for acme-ee10 ...
Downloading from sonatype-nexus-snapshots: https://oss.sonatype.org/content/repositories/snapshots/org/apache/maven/plugins/maven-surefire-plugin/maven-metadata.xml
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0016I: Web application available (default_host): http://mum1.fyre.ibm.com:9080/AcmeAnnuityWeb/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0016I: Web application available (default_host): http://mum1.fyre.ibm.com:9080/AnnuityJAXRS20/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0016I: Web application available (default_host): http://mum1.fyre.ibm.com:9080/AnnuityJAXRS11M1/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0016I: Web application available (default_host): http://mum1.fyre.ibm.com:9080/AnnuityJAXRS11M2/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0016I: Web application available (default_host): http://mum1.fyre.ibm.com:9080/AnnuityPojoWSes/
[INFO] No tests to run.
[INFO] [WARNING ] Settings: Could not parse struts.locale setting, substituting default VM locale
[INFO] Rendering content with org.apache.maven.skins:maven-default-skin:jar:1.3 skin.
[INFO] Unit tests for acme-ee10 finished.
[INFO]
[INFO] Waiting up to 30 seconds to find the application start up or update message...
[INFO] CWWKM2010I: Searching for (CWWKZ0001I:|CWWKZ0003I:) in C:\eclipse-workspace\acme-ee10\acme-ee\AcmeWebEjbEar\target\liberty\wlp\usr\servers\defaultServer\logs\messages.log. This search will timeout after 30 seconds.
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKZ0001I: Application AcmeWebEjbEar started in 122.664 seconds.
[INFO] CWWKM2015I: Match number: 1 is [11/9/23, 14:26:45:938 PST] 00000031 com.ibm.ws.app.manager.AppMessageHelper                      A CWWKZ0001I: Application AcmeWebEjbEar started in 122.664 seconds..
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[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKZ0003I: The application AcmeWebEjbEar updated in 108.886 seconds.
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0017I: Web application removed (default_host): http://mum1.fyre.ibm.com:9080/AnnuityPojoWSes/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0017I: Web application removed (default_host): http://mum1.fyre.ibm.com:9080/AnnuityJAXRS11M2/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0017I: Web application removed (default_host): http://mum1.fyre.ibm.com:9080/AnnuityJAXRS11M1/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0017I: Web application removed (default_host): http://mum1.fyre.ibm.com:9080/AnnuityJAXRS20/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0017I: Web application removed (default_host): http://mum1.fyre.ibm.com:9080/AcmeAnnuityWeb/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0017I: Web application removed (default_host): http://mum1.fyre.ibm.com:9080/AcmeAnnuityEJB3JAXWS_CDI/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0017I: Web application removed (default_host): http://mum1.fyre.ibm.com:9080/AcmeAnnuityEJB3JAXWS/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKZ0009I: The application AcmeWebEjbEar has stopped successfully.

It goes through this cycle a couple of times before the application is finally available. During these times - if I try to access the app url - I get Context Root not found.

Finally - when I see this message:

[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0016I: Web application available (default_host): http://mum1.fyre.ibm.com:9080/AcmeAnnuityEJB3JAXWS/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0016I: Web application available (default_host): http://mum1.fyre.ibm.com:9080/AcmeAnnuityEJB3JAXWS_CDI/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0016I: Web application available (default_host): http://mum1.fyre.ibm.com:9080/AcmeAnnuityWeb/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0016I: Web application available (default_host): http://mum1.fyre.ibm.com:9080/AnnuityJAXRS20/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0016I: Web application available (default_host): http://mum1.fyre.ibm.com:9080/AnnuityJAXRS11M1/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0016I: Web application available (default_host): http://mum1.fyre.ibm.com:9080/AnnuityJAXRS11M2/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0016I: Web application available (default_host): http://mum1.fyre.ibm.com:9080/AnnuityPojoWSes/
[INFO] [WARNING ] Settings: Could not parse struts.locale setting, substituting default VM locale
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKZ0003I: The application AcmeWebEjbEar updated in 106.687 seconds.

then the app is finally stable and I can access the app url.
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The prev errors were on Eclipse.
I do see the same errors in VScode as well.

warning: [options] To suppress warnings about obsolete options, use -Xlint:-options.
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0016I: Web application available (default_host): http://localhost:9080/AcmeAnnuityWeb/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0016I: Web application available (default_host): http://localhost:9080/AnnuityJAXRS20/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0016I: Web application available (default_host): http://localhost:9080/AnnuityJAXRS11M1/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0016I: Web application available (default_host): http://localhost:9080/AnnuityJAXRS11M2/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0016I: Web application available (default_host): http://localhost:9080/AnnuityPojoWSes/
4 warnings
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INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0017I: Web application removed (default_host): http://localhost:9080/AnnuityPojoWSes/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0017I: Web application removed (default_host): http://localhost:9080/AnnuityJAXRS11M2/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0017I: Web application removed (default_host): http://localhost:9080/AnnuityJAXRS11M1/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0017I: Web application removed (default_host): http://localhost:9080/AnnuityJAXRS20/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0017I: Web application removed (default_host): http://localhost:9080/AcmeAnnuityWeb/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKZ0009I: The application AcmeWebEjbEar has stopped successfully.
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4 warnings
[INFO] AcmeAnnuityWeb source compilation was successful.
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0016I: Web application available (default_host): http://localhost:9080/AcmeAnnuityWeb/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0016I: Web application available (default_host): http://localhost:9080/AnnuityJAXRS20/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0016I: Web application available (default_host): http://localhost:9080/AnnuityJAXRS11M1/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0016I: Web application available (default_host): http://localhost:9080/AnnuityJAXRS11M2/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0016I: Web application available (default_host): http://localhost:9080/AnnuityPojoWSes/
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INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKZ0003I: The application AcmeWebEjbEar updated in 0.863 seconds.
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0017I: Web application removed (default_host): http://localhost:9080/AnnuityPojoWSes/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0017I: Web application removed (default_host): http://localhost:9080/AnnuityJAXRS11M2/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0017I: Web application removed (default_host): http://localhost:9080/AnnuityJAXRS11M1/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0017I: Web application removed (default_host): http://localhost:9080/AnnuityJAXRS20/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0017I: Web application removed (default_host): http://localhost:9080/AcmeAnnuityWeb/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKZ0009I: The application AcmeWebEjbEar has stopped successfully.
[INFO] [WARNING ] SRVE9967W: The manifest class path commons-dbcp-1.2.2.jar can not be found in jar file file:/Users/rumanahaque/Documents/Acme_ee10/acme-ee/AcmeAnnuityCommon/target/classes/ or its parent.
[INFO] [WARNING ] SRVE9967W: The manifest class path commons-pool-1.3.jar can not be found in jar file file:/Users/rumanahaque/Documents/Acme_ee10/acme-ee/AcmeAnnuityCommon/target/classes/ or its parent.
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0016I: Web application available (default_host): http://localhost:9080/AcmeAnnuityWeb/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0016I: Web application available (default_host): http://localhost:9080/AnnuityJAXRS20/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0016I: Web application available (default_host): http://localhost:9080/AnnuityJAXRS11M1/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0016I: Web application available (default_host): http://localhost:9080/AnnuityJAXRS11M2/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0016I: Web application available (default_host): http://localhost:9080/AnnuityPojoWSes/
[INFO] [WARNING ] CWNEN0046W: The jakarta.jms.ConnectionFactory type specified on the resource-ref, resource-env-ref, or message-destination-ref with the jms/ACMEAnnuityJMSConnectionFactory name in the AcmeAnnuityWeb.war module could not be loaded. Compatibility type checking will not be performed for this resource reference.
[INFO] [ERROR   ] SRVE0321E: The [struts2] filter did not load during start up.
[INFO] Filter [struts2]: org.apache.struts2.dispatcher.FilterDispatcher was found, but is missing another required class.
[INFO] 
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKZ0003I: The application AcmeWebEjbEar updated in 0.643 seconds.

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Could be related to #699? Although Rumana did say she did not see the same behavior from the command line. Need to try and recreate from the cmd line ourselves to see.

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Update about command line. I just retried, and I see the same behavior from the command line as well. The issue is where I run the mvn liberty:dev command from.
If I run within the root - i.e - c:\eclipse-workspace\acme-ee10\acme-ee>mvn liberty:dev - I see the same problem as I see using the Liberty Tools Start - where it keeps on recompiling.

[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0016I: Web application available (default_host): http://mum1.fyre.ibm.com:9080/AcmeAnnuityEJB3JAXWS/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0016I: Web application available (default_host): http://mum1.fyre.ibm.com:9080/AcmeAnnuityEJB3JAXWS_CDI/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0016I: Web application available (default_host): http://mum1.fyre.ibm.com:9080/AcmeAnnuityWeb/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0016I: Web application available (default_host): http://mum1.fyre.ibm.com:9080/AnnuityJAXRS20/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0016I: Web application available (default_host): http://mum1.fyre.ibm.com:9080/AnnuityJAXRS11M1/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0016I: Web application available (default_host): http://mum1.fyre.ibm.com:9080/AnnuityJAXRS11M2/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0016I: Web application available (default_host): http://mum1.fyre.ibm.com:9080/AnnuityPojoWSes/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKZ0003I: The application AcmeWebEjbEar updated in 22.712 seconds.
[INFO] [WARNING ] Settings: Could not parse struts.locale setting, substituting default VM locale
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0017I: Web application removed (default_host): http://mum1.fyre.ibm.com:9080/AnnuityPojoWSes/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0017I: Web application removed (default_host): http://mum1.fyre.ibm.com:9080/AnnuityJAXRS11M2/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0017I: Web application removed (default_host): http://mum1.fyre.ibm.com:9080/AnnuityJAXRS11M1/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0017I: Web application removed (default_host): http://mum1.fyre.ibm.com:9080/AnnuityJAXRS20/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0017I: Web application removed (default_host): http://mum1.fyre.ibm.com:9080/AcmeAnnuityWeb/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0017I: Web application removed (default_host): http://mum1.fyre.ibm.com:9080/AcmeAnnuityEJB3JAXWS_CDI/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKT0017I: Web application removed (default_host): http://mum1.fyre.ibm.com:9080/AcmeAnnuityEJB3JAXWS/
[INFO] [AUDIT   ] CWWKZ0009I: The application AcmeWebEjbEar has stopped successfully.

However - if I run within the project AcmeWebEjbEar
c:\eclipse-workspace\acme-ee10\acme-ee\AcmeWebEjbEar>mvn liberty:dev
then it starts it only once and does not recompile.

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I've been experimenting with the CargoTracker Jakarta sample: https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/cargotracker/

There seems to be a similar "thrashing" behavior where the app continually restarts upon update.

I accounted for the issue: #699 by building a local snapshot and hard-coding disabling the initial compile (the one we do AFTER the compile mojo runs). While this simplified the initial startup, I still experienced the same thing after later making an update once the app had been up and started.

There seems to be something app-related in play here. The cargo tracker uses EJB persistent timers and its JPA runs a startup script... not sure if either of those are related.

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@rumanaHaque can you please try to recreate with this trace: <logging traceSpecification="*=info:applications=all and please capture both:

  • the terminal/console log (mvn output)
  • a server dump /.../wlp/bin/server dump (or I guess just the 'logs' dir within but might as well ask for the whole dump)

I saw something similar w/ the cargotracker app...there I suspect it is some failures related to messaging & MDB init causing the thrashing..combined with the fact that restarting some of these messaging components forces an app recycle. I'm not too familiar with this from the runtime perspective.. so possibly we'd need a couple rounds of tracing to get to the bottom of this. Thank you !

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I added the server trace string as you mentioned in my server.xml file-
<logging traceSpecification="*=info:applications=all" maxFileSize="100" maxFiles="20" traceFileName="server_trace.log" />

I did an mvn clean, and started my server using the Liberty Tools dashboard.
I did not see any trace files generated.

These are the logs for the server after I started, and it also has the console.txt file where I tried to capture most of the console output.
logs.zip

I also got the server dump as you requested - by running this command.

c:\IBM\WAS\profiles\AppSrv02>C:\eclipse-workspace\acme-ee10\acme-ee\AcmeWebEjbEar\target\liberty\wlp\bin\server dump
Dumping server defaultServer.
Server defaultServer is not running.
Server defaultServer dump complete in C:\eclipse-workspace\acme-ee10\acme-ee\AcmeWebEjbEar\target\liberty\wlp\usr\servers\defaultServer\defaultServer.dump-23.12.11_10.32.56.zip.

Here is the server dump.
defaultServer.dump-23.12.11_10.32.56.zip

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scottkurz commented Dec 11, 2023 •
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It looks to me like the <logging> element is not enabled in the server dump. That would be a big help. Could you please try again with the trace enabled when you get a chance?

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rumanaHaque commented Dec 11, 2023 •
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Hi @scottkurz - Yes - sorry I had put the trace string in a diff server.xml in my workspace.
Here are the log files after I enabled trace in the correct server.xml.

logs.zip

And the server dump again.
defaultServer.dump-23.12.11_13.26.02.zip

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Discussed this more in DXDI call today: https://github.com/orgs/OpenLiberty/projects/23/views/3?pane=issue&itemId=50131096

I'm going to share some sketched out, incomplete thoughts here, though this doesn't even include detailed analysis of the captured trace, just some guesses based on a preliminary look at the logs captured back in Dec.

THOUGHTS

I wonder if this issue raises a weakness with the design assumption that we don't need an mbean notification on app update, (like we used in WDT/LDT).

This would potentially allow us to do a single app restart rather than multiple ones.

That said, I wouldn't think the app would just keep restarting if this were the core issue. I'd think it'd eventually settle down...but this is just a guess.

Looking into it a bit, it seems WDT builds a set of changed files and invokes the FileNotificationMBean passing this set, after which the Liberty runtime then (re)starts the app.

I also wonder if bumping up the polling rate could reduce the chance for this kind of situation. E.g. if we switched from 500ms to 5s would the mbean not be as important?

<applicationMonitor pollingRate="5s"/>

CONCLUSION

That's all for now, I'm not asking anyone to rerun anything, just sharing some of my own notes on the subject here.

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