(request) system tray blended into the bottom bar

[brightersun99]

The CDE bottom bar has some larger icons for clock, calender, theyre pretty spacy.

Since you're using fvwm for a base I imagine this would be possible, the idea is makinga custom tray app/fork of stalone tray that can become apart of the bottom bar, looking just like another icon and being interacted with like a system tray. It could be like a widget.

People may oppose this, the cde crowd don't lile trays, however stalonetray is an eye sore and sticks out like a sore thumb in its current, and default configuration and theres just noway around that.

unrelated,
Thanks for the excellent DE I have started to move my other CDE comptuers over to it, although I prefer cde, at least his way I dont need to run rpcbind on the already insecure linux desktop

[NsCDE]

Hi,

Thanks for bringing this up. This "tray in the Front Panel" problem is the painful thing which I was thinking about for a long time. The problem is fixed space in Front Panel button. Even if we tune stalonetray rc to fit 9 icons into a 48x48 space of Front Panel button, I don't know how it will behave when 9 tray icons become 10 or more. Allegedly, stalonetray has some internal mini scrollbars, but I never got it to show. See section 7.1 of the manual how to configure custom applets in FrontPanel, try yourself if you have a time and will.

Meanwhile I will try to find some time this month to look at this possibility again. Leaving this issue open.

[brightersun99]

Thanks for replying .
With wmsystmetray (which only works on windowmaker), it fits 4 icons, 6 in small mode. And it has two front/back arrow keys for when you run out of space.

Anyways theres only 1-2 programs I use that hide in the tray and can't be called into focus simply by trying to start them again, hexchat and pidgin. I really hate that freedesktop standard.

I'll give it a tray.

By the way, do you know how to make nscde behave like actual cde? alt tabbing seems all messed up and different and i cant simply click into a window to focus/raise it i have to click its title bar or spam click it.

[rtomsick]

By the way, do you know how to make nscde behave like actual cde? alt tabbing seems all messed up and different and i cant simply click into a window to focus/raise it i have to click its title bar or spam click it.

I'm just passing through this issue, but as a fellow ex-CDE user: hi!

To answer the question, you should be able to change the focus settings via Style Manager > Window and then picking "Click In Window To Make Active". Keybindings can be changed in ~/.NsCDE/NsCDE-Keybindings.local.

[melroy89]

By the way, do you know how to make nscde behave like actual cde? alt tabbing seems all messed up and different and i cant simply click into a window to focus/raise it i have to click its title bar or spam click it.

As @rtomsick already said you can change in the keybindings file. You can also check the file:///opt/NsCDE/share/doc/html/NsCDE-Keybindings_conf.html file, like: alt+arrow up or alt+arrow down also allows you to cycle between windows.

Or Win + Alt + n and Win + Alt + b also allows you to switch between windows.

In my case I also prefer Alt+Tab for focusing windows, since I'm used to that for 30 years now. Try to edit ~/.NsCDE/NsCDE-Keybindings.local and add:

Silent Key Tab M f_SwitchFocus Next CurrentPage

Or (cylce with previous windows):

Silent Key Tab M f_SwitchFocus Prev CurrentPage

ps. Don't forget to restart you NsCDE in order to apply the new settings. (the letter 'M' is the Alt button)

ps. ps. I even disabled some other keybindings that gave me issues (like shift+tab en shift+arrow keys). I disabled those as well:

# Disable Shift+Tab
Key Tab A S - -

# Disable Shift+Arrow keys
Key Left A S - -
Key Right A S - -
Key Up A S - -
Key Down A S - -

Cursor movements I no longer use my Shift + arrow keys, instead I use Shift + numlock arrows for that:

# Move cursor via Shift+Num keys
Silent Key KP_Left A S CursorMove -1 0
Silent Key KP_Right A S CursorMove +1 +0
Silent Key KP_Up A S CursorMove +0 -1
Silent Key KP_Down A S CursorMove +0 +1

I even enabled more key bindings:

# Make use of additional fancy keyboard keys
Silent Key XF86Calculator A A Exec exec $[infostore.calculator]
Silent Key XF86HomePage A A Exec exec firefox
Silent Key XF86Tools A A Exec exec rhythmbox
Silent Key XF86Mail A A Exec exec mailspring

@NsCDE I hope NsCDE really take a closer look to conflicting keybinding like listed above, and rebinding those to other keybindings in the official NsCDE release.

[NsCDE]

Hi danger89 and rtomsick,

List of fey bindings is pretty much extensive in NsCDE. Probably too much. I tried to consolidate this before first non-rc release in some logical way. So cycling of pages ended with Alt+Tab and cycling of workspaces with Meta+Tab.
I understand Alt+Tab is commonly used for switching active windows or bringing window list for selection, so this can be a bit strange here.
Keep your local overrides as they are for now. If I change Alt+Tab, I must also rethink Meta+Tab, but then again, some people are using this already ... or not to touch Meta+Tab, but rethink page cycling to some other Meta+ or X+Tab combination to be consistent, but not to use Alt.
I will leave this open for now.

[ghost]

I do exactly as the title says but with KDE Plasma:

in ~/.NsCDE/FrontPanel.actions add this:

Btn2,__APPLET__,M1,"ActionIgnoresClientWindow| Swallow (UseOld) \\"System Tray\\" \\"Exec sh -c `plasmawindowed org.kde.plasma.systemtray & starttime=$(date +%s); while [ $(( $(date +%s) - 10 )) -lt $starttime ]; do xprop -name 'System Tray' -remove WM_NORMAL_HINTS; done`\\"",Nop

You will have to configure system tray to hide all but two notification icons so you keep the popup overflow menu. Other than that it looks VERY well integrated.