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The current description of the filter suggests that surface features may have a skewed surface area to volume and sphericity. First, all the boundary cells are found for each feature, and then, the surface area for each face that is in contact with a different feature is totaled. It is unclear what this means for cells that are part of the outer boundary, i.e., does this filter consider the "Include Volume Boundary" that users can select in the Find Boundary Cells (Image) filter? And if so, filters like this (and others that compute feature attributes that are skewed by surface-connected features, e.g., Find Feature Shapes) should probably include a warning to users (maybe just in the documentation) that i) since this feature is connected to the surface, its attributes should be interpreted carefully, and ii) users can filter these features by using the Find Surface Features filter and then examining the boolean "SurfaceFeatures" feature attribute, which can be written to a .csv file alongside Surface Area to Volume, Sphericity, etc.
Also, how does this work/what does it report for a 2D EBSD scan? In this case, the filter would calculate something akin to the grain boundary to surface area ratio, correct? I think this would be useful to include in the filter documentation. Please let me know what you think and thank you. Apologies if it feels like I have been bombarding the issues page these last few days/weeks.
Best regards,
Krzysztof Stopka
Version
DREAM3D NX (version 7)
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Filter Documentation
Anything else?
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I went through the code and the code will only count surface area if the face does not border a "featureId = 0" cell. This will definitely skew the results for any feature that touches not just the outside boundary, but "Pores" or anything else that has been labeled as "FeatureId = 0"
Compute Feature Shapes
This filter does not take into account any kind of "boundary" or "border" cells. Each feature, regardless if it touches a featureIs=0 or the outer edge, will get its shape computed.
2D Volumes (Compute Surface Area to Volume)
Since even a single layer has "volume", the way the code currently stands, it will be calculating "something" as the ratio. The filter probably needs a "2D" mode like some of the other volumes. I'll put a warning in the filter documentation.
Here is the updated documentation
Description
This Filter calculates the ratio of surface area to volume for each Feature in an Image Geometry.
This filter also optionally calculate the Sphericity of each feature.
This Filter determines whether a Feature touches an outer Surface of the sample volume. A Feature is considered touching the Surface of the sample if either of the following conditions are met:
Any cell location is xmin, xmax, ymin, ymax, zmin or zmax
Any cell has Feature ID = 0 as a neighbor.
Algorithm Details
First, all the boundary Cells are found for each Feature.
Next, the surface area for each face that is in contact with a different Feature is totalled as long as that neighboring featureId is > 0.
This number is divided by the volume of each Feature, calculated by taking the number of Cells of each Feature and multiplying by the volume of a Cell.
WARNING - Aliasing
The surface area will be the surface area of the Cells in contact with the neighboring Feature and will be influenced by the aliasing of the structure. As a result, the surface area to volume will likely be over-estimated with respect to the realFeature.
WARNING - Skewed Results for features touching the surface
Because the filter does not include any surface that is touching/connected to a "FeatureId = 0", those features that are in contact with the edge of the virtual volume or in contact with internal features that are labeled as "FeatureId = 0" will have their values skewed.
Warning - 2D Image Geometry Results
Because even a single slice has volume according to DREAM3D-NX, results will still be computed. These results should NOT be interpreted as "Boundary Length to Area" values.
Is there an existing issue for this?
Brief Description of the Documentation Issue or Improvement
I have a question about the workings of the Find Surface Area to Volume & Sphericity filter in 2D and 3D.
The current description of the filter suggests that surface features may have a skewed surface area to volume and sphericity. First, all the boundary cells are found for each feature, and then, the surface area for each face that is in contact with a different feature is totaled. It is unclear what this means for cells that are part of the outer boundary, i.e., does this filter consider the "Include Volume Boundary" that users can select in the
Find Boundary Cells (Image)
filter? And if so, filters like this (and others that compute feature attributes that are skewed by surface-connected features, e.g.,Find Feature Shapes
) should probably include a warning to users (maybe just in the documentation) that i) since this feature is connected to the surface, its attributes should be interpreted carefully, and ii) users can filter these features by using theFind Surface Features
filter and then examining the boolean "SurfaceFeatures" feature attribute, which can be written to a .csv file alongside Surface Area to Volume, Sphericity, etc.Also, how does this work/what does it report for a 2D EBSD scan? In this case, the filter would calculate something akin to the grain boundary to surface area ratio, correct? I think this would be useful to include in the filter documentation. Please let me know what you think and thank you. Apologies if it feels like I have been bombarding the issues page these last few days/weeks.
Best regards,
Krzysztof Stopka
Version
DREAM3D NX (version 7)
What section of the documentation did you encounter the discrepancy in? [Further details may be required during triage process]
Filter Documentation
Anything else?
No response
Code of Conduct
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