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Getting stuck in the "trusted phone carrier" #78

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BoseSj opened this issue Mar 10, 2023 · 36 comments
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Getting stuck in the "trusted phone carrier" #78

BoseSj opened this issue Mar 10, 2023 · 36 comments

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@BoseSj
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BoseSj commented Mar 10, 2023

I am getting stuck in the 1/3 step. Can you guys let us know the reason, and what might the step we should be taking to resolve this?

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@ScottFerreira
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I saw this as well. I had a VPN running and when I turned it off for a bit, I was able to get through. Not sure if that will be what's happening for you but figured I would mention just in case.

@BoseSj
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BoseSj commented Mar 11, 2023

I saw this as well. I had a VPN running and when I turned it off for a bit, I was able to get through. Not sure if that will be what's happening for you but figured I would mention just in case.

I am not using any VPN at the first place.

@ScottFerreira
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I saw this as well. I had a VPN running and when I turned it off for a bit, I was able to get through. Not sure if that will be what's happening for you but figured I would mention just in case.

I am not using any VPN at the first place.

Ah okay. Do you mind sharing what phone carrier you use?

@BoseSj
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BoseSj commented Mar 12, 2023

I tried on broadband first, then tried using Jio. Both failed.

@Jamie0
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Jamie0 commented Mar 14, 2023

Same trying with Three UK!

@BoseSj
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BoseSj commented Mar 14, 2023

😪they should clarify this issue definitely.

@kaovilai
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Had google voice number, switched to T-Mobile number and worked.

@finaldzn
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I have a french number from Orange, getting stuck in this step

@TakkieYah
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Dutch number vodaphone; also stuck. Anywhere to turn to?

@wanted0
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wanted0 commented Aug 3, 2023

Same issue with Poland and nju mobile (a brand of Orange) carrier. Also, why would VPN matter? I understand the phone carrier is related to your phone number and SMS verification, while your internet connection is a completely unrelated thing. You could be using the same carrier's network, but that's not necessarily the case for most people.

@januszmk
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januszmk commented Aug 9, 2023

Same issue with Poland and nju mobile (a brand of Orange) carrier

I believe no network from Poland is accepted. I checked Play, Orange, T-Mobile and no one with number from those carriers can get through. Its weird, because recently they announced that Poland is officially supported

@wanted0
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wanted0 commented Aug 9, 2023

Its weird, because recently they announced that Poland is officially supported

I can confirm -- tried with T-Mobile, same issue.

We can see first hand the difference between Elonvision and Reality.

I searched through Twitter's source code to find any trace of how the "trusted" phone verification is done, but it doesn't seem to be published.

@januszmk
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@wanted0 I was able to sign up to the waitlist after changing to Plus number, so looks like there is 1 working network in Poland

@avipars
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avipars commented Oct 24, 2023

If you are using a VOIP number, occasionally this is the cause of the problem

@januszmk
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@avipars maybe it is occasionally problem for voip number, but main problem is that normal numbers from countries where community notes launched are not accepted

@dasayan05
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Same issue -- not "trusted phone carrier". I am on Lebara in UK.

@camchis
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camchis commented Oct 30, 2023

Can't sign up with Three either, one of the biggest carriers in the UK... has anyone successfully signed up with a VOIP/eSim number?

@SoumyaEXE
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Jio is supported? @twitterbirdwatch

@wanted0
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wanted0 commented Dec 29, 2023

@jbaxter - my apologies for tagging you directly here, but it seems we're running in circles here. There are many genuine GSM operators, especially across Europe, that are not on the "trusted" list of Twitter. There is no mention anywhere how this trusted list of carriers is built or how to modify it. It blocks the ability of many users to contribute to Community Notes.

Perhaps as an employee you could help address this issue to a proper place internally?

@voxdevis
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@twitterbirdwatch which operator is "trusted" in Uzbekistan?

@muayyat
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muayyat commented Mar 9, 2024

Which operators are trusted in Sweden?

@kennethsequeira
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Which are trusted carriers in India?

@shivam-maurya-git
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@twitter-service This issue is resolved in India, as community notes services started in India now.

@wanted0
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wanted0 commented Apr 4, 2024

@twitter-service This issue is resolved in India, as community notes services started in India now.

@shivam-maurya-git this issue is not about Community Notes availability in given countries, but about the secrecy of how Twitter/X selects the carriers as "trusted". There is no public information about it anywhere and many genuine carriers in various countries are banned for no good reason.

Have you checked if all major carriers in India are marked as trusted?

@shivam-maurya-git
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@wanted0 Yes, I checked.

@BoseSj
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BoseSj commented Apr 4, 2024

Yeah, this issue seems resolved now. As of 2024, I can sign up using just about any carrier, even my broadband. I suppose as a result of Twitter finally supporting the feature in India.

@BoseSj BoseSj closed this as completed Apr 4, 2024
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wanted0 commented Apr 4, 2024

@BoseSj maybe it's solved in India, but as you can see people were reporting the same issues in other countries. And I can assure you that my mobile phone carrier in Poland is still not recognized as trusted. Please reopen.

@BoseSj
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BoseSj commented Apr 5, 2024

Sure, but as you can see maintainers have not been responding much.

@BoseSj BoseSj reopened this Apr 5, 2024
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wanted0 commented Apr 5, 2024

Thank you @BoseSj - apologies for the spam that you'll continue getting, but I don't think there is an option to reassign the issue creator to someone else, and creating a separate issue would be waste IMO.

Let's hope that finally somebody at X like @twitterbirdwatch notices this issue and helps solve it completely.

@EliusHHimel
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EliusHHimel commented Apr 7, 2024

Hope one-day this issue will be solved for all countries.

@andybrandt
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Fairly annoying that living in Poland & not having a foreign SIM I can't get through. Why are all Poland's operators "not trusted"?

@januszmk
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januszmk commented May 6, 2024

@andybrandt plus is trusted

@andybrandt
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@andybrandt plus is trusted

Thanks! Now I have to wonder if it is worth it buying a prepaid Plus card for a couple of months just do get access to community notes posting. :D

BTW: does anyone know what makes an operator "trusted" or "untrusted"?

@januszmk
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januszmk commented May 7, 2024

@andybrandt just remember that you cannot change the number back, because you will loose access to CN. but you can hold the activated sim card without paying for long time

@wanted0
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wanted0 commented May 7, 2024

BTW: does anyone know what makes an operator "trusted" or "untrusted"?

Nobody knows, at least in public. So much for the claimed "open source" approach from Twitter/X. It is also worth noting that other tickets are generally getting attention from X employees or @twitterbirdwatch account, this one, despite having the largest number of comments, is quietly ignored by them.

@majok-majok
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@twitterbirdwatch Is any provider "trusted" in Uganda and South Sudan? I have tried pretty much all Ugandan networks in vain

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