ACH - Packaged Air Cooled Simultaneous Cooling and Heating Unit #219
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suggest that ACH might be confusing as it is commonly used for |
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Other possible abbreviations: PACH or ASCH. Please @mariehunter-bim let us know your comments. |
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I prefer PACH. Thank you
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Hi - Air Source Heat Pump with Simultaneous Heating and Cooling it should probs be grouped with either the chillers or heat pumps: 
maybe ACCH (air cooled chiller is sufficient?) |
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Hi Thang,
Any preference on the abbreviation for a Packaged Air Cooled Simultaneous
Cooling and Heating Unit?
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…On Fri, May 3, 2024 at 2:24 AM John Gunstone ***@***.***> wrote:
Hi -
having just reviewed the links you provided I think that product is best
described as:
Air Source Heat Pump with Simultaneous Heating and Cooling
or
Chiller with Simultaneous Heating and Cooling
(I've always found the terminology "Chiller" for a heat pump to be
frustrating as if you run it in reverse its no longer a chiller!)
it should probs be grouped with either the chillers or heat pumps:
image.png (view on web)
<https://github.com/theodi/BDNS/assets/21370980/64d9c59c-15cc-48fe-820b-61eaa46c3a10>
image.png (view on web)
<https://github.com/theodi/BDNS/assets/21370980/4ba5df6e-3081-49a0-8680-29e8e076e7f4>
maybe ACCH (air cooled chiller is sufficient?)
or ACCHS for Air Cooled Chiller with Simultaneous heating and cooling... ?
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Marie,
I believe App 19
<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1127iAP4UqcfRmFgaEdafydCCVokZuk564rfJIqPnMuI/edit#gid=830556520&fvid=1608765393>
calls out HP for all various types of unit that does heating/cooling.
[image: image.png]
Curtis & Sri,
Should we keep it as HP or should we be more specific?
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Hi Thang,
Any preference on the abbreviation for a Packaged Air Cooled Simultaneous
Cooling and Heating Unit?
Marie Hunter | LEED AP BD&C | BIM Facilitator
Working for Avixi at Google
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On Fri, May 3, 2024 at 2:24 AM John Gunstone ***@***.***>
wrote:
> Hi -
> having just reviewed the links you provided I think that product is best
> described as:
>
> Air Source Heat Pump with Simultaneous Heating and Cooling
> or
> Chiller with Simultaneous Heating and Cooling
> (I've always found the terminology "Chiller" for a heat pump to be
> frustrating as if you run it in reverse its no longer a chiller!)
>
> it should probs be grouped with either the chillers or heat pumps:
> image.png (view on web)
> <https://github.com/theodi/BDNS/assets/21370980/64d9c59c-15cc-48fe-820b-61eaa46c3a10>
>
> image.png (view on web)
> <https://github.com/theodi/BDNS/assets/21370980/4ba5df6e-3081-49a0-8680-29e8e076e7f4>
>
> maybe ACCH (air cooled chiller is sufficient?)
> or ACCHS for Air Cooled Chiller with Simultaneous heating and cooling... ?
>
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I prefer to define it as WSHP (water source), ASHP (air source) and GSHP
(ground source).
Thanks,
Sri
…On Mon, May 6, 2024, 12:14 PM Thang Nguyen ***@***.***> wrote:
Marie,
I believe App 19
<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1127iAP4UqcfRmFgaEdafydCCVokZuk564rfJIqPnMuI/edit#gid=830556520&fvid=1608765393>
calls out HP for all various types of unit that does heating/cooling.
[image: image.png]
Curtis & Sri,
Should we keep it as HP or should we be more specific?
On Sun, May 5, 2024 at 7:27 PM Marie-Aline Hunter ***@***.***>
wrote:
> +Thang Nguyen ***@***.***>
>
> Hi Thang,
> Any preference on the abbreviation for a Packaged Air Cooled Simultaneous
> Cooling and Heating Unit?
>
>
>
>
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>
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> Marie Hunter | LEED AP BD&C | BIM Facilitator
>
> Working for Avixi at Google
>
> CA, USA | 408-592-1610 <(408)%20592-1610>
> ******* OOO from April 21st to May 16th ********
>
>
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> On Fri, May 3, 2024 at 2:24 AM John Gunstone ***@***.***>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi -
>> having just reviewed the links you provided I think that product is best
>> described as:
>>
>> Air Source Heat Pump with Simultaneous Heating and Cooling
>> or
>> Chiller with Simultaneous Heating and Cooling
>> (I've always found the terminology "Chiller" for a heat pump to be
>> frustrating as if you run it in reverse its no longer a chiller!)
>>
>> it should probs be grouped with either the chillers or heat pumps:
>> image.png (view on web)
>> <https://github.com/theodi/BDNS/assets/21370980/64d9c59c-15cc-48fe-820b-61eaa46c3a10>
>>
>> image.png (view on web)
>> <https://github.com/theodi/BDNS/assets/21370980/4ba5df6e-3081-49a0-8680-29e8e076e7f4>
>>
>> maybe ACCH (air cooled chiller is sufficient?)
>> or ACCHS for Air Cooled Chiller with Simultaneous heating and cooling...
>> ?
>>
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We understand no new abbreviations are required. |
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Marie & Curtis,
Any objection to Sri's comments.
On Mon, May 6, 2024 at 12:19 PM Sri Palanyiaya ***@***.***>
wrote:
… I prefer to define it as WSHP (water source), ASHP (air source) and GSHP
(ground source).
Thanks,
Sri
On Mon, May 6, 2024, 12:14 PM Thang Nguyen ***@***.***> wrote:
> Marie,
> I believe App 19
> <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1127iAP4UqcfRmFgaEdafydCCVokZuk564rfJIqPnMuI/edit#gid=830556520&fvid=1608765393>
> calls out HP for all various types of unit that does heating/cooling.
> [image: image.png]
>
> Curtis & Sri,
> Should we keep it as HP or should we be more specific?
>
> On Sun, May 5, 2024 at 7:27 PM Marie-Aline Hunter ***@***.***>
> wrote:
>
>> +Thang Nguyen ***@***.***>
>>
>> Hi Thang,
>> Any preference on the abbreviation for a Packaged Air Cooled
>> Simultaneous Cooling and Heating Unit?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Marie Hunter | LEED AP BD&C | BIM Facilitator
>>
>> Working for Avixi at Google
>>
>> CA, USA | 408-592-1610 <(408)%20592-1610>
>> ******* OOO from April 21st to May 16th ********
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 3, 2024 at 2:24 AM John Gunstone ***@***.***>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi -
>>> having just reviewed the links you provided I think that product is
>>> best described as:
>>>
>>> Air Source Heat Pump with Simultaneous Heating and Cooling
>>> or
>>> Chiller with Simultaneous Heating and Cooling
>>> (I've always found the terminology "Chiller" for a heat pump to be
>>> frustrating as if you run it in reverse its no longer a chiller!)
>>>
>>> it should probs be grouped with either the chillers or heat pumps:
>>> image.png (view on web)
>>> <https://github.com/theodi/BDNS/assets/21370980/64d9c59c-15cc-48fe-820b-61eaa46c3a10>
>>>
>>> image.png (view on web)
>>> <https://github.com/theodi/BDNS/assets/21370980/4ba5df6e-3081-49a0-8680-29e8e076e7f4>
>>>
>>> maybe ACCH (air cooled chiller is sufficient?)
>>> or ACCHS for Air Cooled Chiller with Simultaneous heating and
>>> cooling... ?
>>>
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> Real Estate & Workplace Services, Google
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> Sunnyvale, CA, USA | +1-650-933-0345 <(650)%20933-0345>
> Upcoming PTO: 5/15 - 5/21
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Hi Thang,
No issues. I agree with Sri's suggestion.
Regards,
Curtis Hilger PE | BOS Global Technical Lead
Working for FPC at Google
San Francisco, CA, USA | +1 415 730 2178
…On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 9:58 AM Thang Nguyen ***@***.***> wrote:
Marie & Curtis,
Any objection to Sri's comments.
On Mon, May 6, 2024 at 12:19 PM Sri Palanyiaya ***@***.***>
wrote:
> I prefer to define it as WSHP (water source), ASHP (air source) and GSHP
> (ground source).
>
> Thanks,
> Sri
>
> On Mon, May 6, 2024, 12:14 PM Thang Nguyen ***@***.***> wrote:
>
>> Marie,
>> I believe App 19
>> <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1127iAP4UqcfRmFgaEdafydCCVokZuk564rfJIqPnMuI/edit#gid=830556520&fvid=1608765393>
>> calls out HP for all various types of unit that does heating/cooling.
>> [image: image.png]
>>
>> Curtis & Sri,
>> Should we keep it as HP or should we be more specific?
>>
>> On Sun, May 5, 2024 at 7:27 PM Marie-Aline Hunter <
>> ***@***.***> wrote:
>>
>>> +Thang Nguyen ***@***.***>
>>>
>>> Hi Thang,
>>> Any preference on the abbreviation for a Packaged Air Cooled
>>> Simultaneous Cooling and Heating Unit?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Marie Hunter | LEED AP BD&C | BIM Facilitator
>>>
>>> Working for Avixi at Google
>>>
>>> CA, USA | 408-592-1610 <(408)%20592-1610>
>>> ******* OOO from April 21st to May 16th ********
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 3, 2024 at 2:24 AM John Gunstone ***@***.***>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi -
>>>> having just reviewed the links you provided I think that product is
>>>> best described as:
>>>>
>>>> Air Source Heat Pump with Simultaneous Heating and Cooling
>>>> or
>>>> Chiller with Simultaneous Heating and Cooling
>>>> (I've always found the terminology "Chiller" for a heat pump to be
>>>> frustrating as if you run it in reverse its no longer a chiller!)
>>>>
>>>> it should probs be grouped with either the chillers or heat pumps:
>>>> image.png (view on web)
>>>> <https://github.com/theodi/BDNS/assets/21370980/64d9c59c-15cc-48fe-820b-61eaa46c3a10>
>>>>
>>>> image.png (view on web)
>>>> <https://github.com/theodi/BDNS/assets/21370980/4ba5df6e-3081-49a0-8680-29e8e076e7f4>
>>>>
>>>> maybe ACCH (air cooled chiller is sufficient?)
>>>> or ACCHS for Air Cooled Chiller with Simultaneous heating and
>>>> cooling... ?
>>>>
>>>> —
>>>> Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub
>>>> <#219 (comment)>,
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>> Thang Nguyen | Technical Services Manager - BA
>>
>> Real Estate & Workplace Services, Google
>>
>> Sunnyvale, CA, USA | +1-650-933-0345 <(650)%20933-0345>
>> Upcoming PTO: 5/15 - 5/21
>>
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Real Estate & Workplace Services, Google
Sunnyvale, CA, USA | +1-650-933-0345 <(650)%20933-0345>
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Marie,
Can we make the suggested change per Sri's comments? Thanks
…On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 10:16 AM Curtis Hilger ***@***.***> wrote:
Hi Thang,
No issues. I agree with Sri's suggestion.
Regards,
Curtis Hilger PE | BOS Global Technical Lead
Working for FPC at Google
San Francisco, CA, USA | +1 415 730 2178 <(415)%20730-2178>
On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 9:58 AM Thang Nguyen ***@***.***> wrote:
> Marie & Curtis,
> Any objection to Sri's comments.
>
> On Mon, May 6, 2024 at 12:19 PM Sri Palanyiaya ***@***.***>
> wrote:
>
>> I prefer to define it as WSHP (water source), ASHP (air source) and GSHP
>> (ground source).
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Sri
>>
>> On Mon, May 6, 2024, 12:14 PM Thang Nguyen ***@***.***> wrote:
>>
>>> Marie,
>>> I believe App 19
>>> <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1127iAP4UqcfRmFgaEdafydCCVokZuk564rfJIqPnMuI/edit#gid=830556520&fvid=1608765393>
>>> calls out HP for all various types of unit that does heating/cooling.
>>> [image: image.png]
>>>
>>> Curtis & Sri,
>>> Should we keep it as HP or should we be more specific?
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 5, 2024 at 7:27 PM Marie-Aline Hunter <
>>> ***@***.***> wrote:
>>>
>>>> +Thang Nguyen ***@***.***>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Thang,
>>>> Any preference on the abbreviation for a Packaged Air Cooled
>>>> Simultaneous Cooling and Heating Unit?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Marie Hunter | LEED AP BD&C | BIM Facilitator
>>>>
>>>> Working for Avixi at Google
>>>>
>>>> CA, USA | 408-592-1610 <(408)%20592-1610>
>>>> ******* OOO from April 21st to May 16th ********
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, May 3, 2024 at 2:24 AM John Gunstone ***@***.***>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi -
>>>>> having just reviewed the links you provided I think that product is
>>>>> best described as:
>>>>>
>>>>> Air Source Heat Pump with Simultaneous Heating and Cooling
>>>>> or
>>>>> Chiller with Simultaneous Heating and Cooling
>>>>> (I've always found the terminology "Chiller" for a heat pump to be
>>>>> frustrating as if you run it in reverse its no longer a chiller!)
>>>>>
>>>>> it should probs be grouped with either the chillers or heat pumps:
>>>>> image.png (view on web)
>>>>> <https://github.com/theodi/BDNS/assets/21370980/64d9c59c-15cc-48fe-820b-61eaa46c3a10>
>>>>>
>>>>> image.png (view on web)
>>>>> <https://github.com/theodi/BDNS/assets/21370980/4ba5df6e-3081-49a0-8680-29e8e076e7f4>
>>>>>
>>>>> maybe ACCH (air cooled chiller is sufficient?)
>>>>> or ACCHS for Air Cooled Chiller with Simultaneous heating and
>>>>> cooling... ?
>>>>>
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>>> Upcoming PTO: 5/15 - 5/21
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> Sunnyvale, CA, USA | +1-650-933-0345 <(650)%20933-0345>
> Upcoming PTO: 5/15 - 5/21
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Proposed Abbreviation: ACH
I would like to propose a new abbreviation for Packaged Air Cooled Simultaneous Cooling and Heating Units as ACH
These units are being used on a Chicago project. See attached brochure (pg 8) for Model UCA from ClimaCool Corp
All_Chiller_Products.pdf
https://climacoolcorp.com/
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