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Bug: Unable to edit your message after a day or a long time #4141

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User1l0 opened this issue May 6, 2024 · 6 comments
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Bug: Unable to edit your message after a day or a long time #4141

User1l0 opened this issue May 6, 2024 · 6 comments
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@User1l0
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User1l0 commented May 6, 2024

Please make able to edit messages, sometimes this is necessary. I really need this feature.

@Narasimha-sc Narasimha-sc added the enhancement New feature or request label May 6, 2024
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messages are save on each receiver's own device. Seems the receiver can refuse message modification.

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Rubber-Duckie commented May 8, 2024

When it comes to messaging apps, users generally expect to be able to edit or delete their messages seamlessly. However, Simplex took the bazaar decision to allow users to opt out of these standard features, which can lead to confusion and the current unintuitive user experience.

Making edit and delete optional, we’re catering to a minority who might use custom clients that might spoof compliance, rather than focusing on the majority who expect consistent behavior across the board. This approach has proven to make the app feel much less reliable and far more complicated than necessary - its incredibly frustrating when you grant the ability to arbitrary opt out of what should be core functionality.

In reality, the ability to edit or delete messages should be a given in the official app. We shouldn’t compromise the user experience for the sake of a few edge cases. Rather, this is about user education. While it’s important to inform users that some recipients may have customized settings that ignore edit or delete requests, this shouldn’t dictate the app’s default functionality. This is the kind of confusion that ensues when you have highly technical developers designing the user experience and little in the way of governance.

The app should deliver a smooth and predictable experience for the 99% of users who use the standard version. Making core features like message editing and deletion optional only serves to frustrate users and deviate from the norm established by other mainstream messaging platforms. Instead, these essential functions should be consistent and reliable, ensuring that everyone has a positive experience with the app. Best to treat edge cases as edge cases, and where necessary supply user education, but do not pollute the user experience what ever you do.

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ITwrx commented May 11, 2024

If i receive a message from someone, i don't want them to be able to edit it. These messages are not blog posts. If i receive an email, they can't edit that either, which is the way i like it. If the other end can edit messages, than anything they say can't be documented. They might as well call and say whatever they want. 😄 To me, if they want to change something, they can send a new message, and the historical record will reflect what really happened.

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If i receive a message from someone, i don't want them to be able to edit it. These messages are not blog posts. If i receive an email, they can't edit that either, which is the way i like it. If the other end can edit messages, than anything they say can't be documented. They might as well call and say whatever they want. 😄 To me, if they want to change something, they can send a new message, and the historical record will reflect what really happened.


There is no historical record that can reflect what really happened since you can yourself create a message that seems to come from anyone as simplex chat has told me. More cumbersome today but it is possible and there has also been a suggestion from simplex chat to add an easier option to create such messages to improve the plausible deniability further.

@gUser5689
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See this feature request too:
#4169

@ITwrx
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ITwrx commented May 12, 2024

There is no historical record that can reflect what really happened since you can yourself create a message that seems to come from anyone as simplex chat has told me.

Different issue, AFAIC. I'm not concerned with separate messages with plausible deniability. I'm concerned with my known contacts editing messages i've already received.

and i guess you're referring to this? https://www.reddit.com/r/SimpleXChat/comments/1bv4ju8/making_message_deniability_more_plausible/

I hope SimpleX will just use their chosen repo (github, in this case) or maybe a SimpleX chat group for these polls/discussions in the future. I don't see these reddit posts until a more active reddit user points them out...

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