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Be wary of the false "liberty" and "democracy" that the bourgeoisie calls. #929

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wangjuhai opened this issue Jul 7, 2023 · 4 comments

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@wangjuhai
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Liberty under private ownership is not liberty. Democracy under bourgeois rule is not democracy.

@skygate2012
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Don't know about that but democracy under monarchy rule is definitely not democracy.

@wangjuhai
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Don't know about that but democracy under monarchy rule is definitely not democracy.

I'm not really good at English. You can know more about socialism here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism
https://www.marxists.org/english.htm
I agree with you, but I think democracy in capitalist society is also false. Many working-class within the capitalist industrial system are being exploited, especially in third world countries. Cannibals eat the few for the sake of the majority. Are cannibals democratic?
I'm a socialist. We support social ownership. We protect minorities from the tyranny of a majority. We are committed to creating a truly democratic society without exploitative classes. Thank you.

@skygate2012
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I'm also a socialist. I just think that anything is better than the emperor situation in China. One man who's lost in touch with reality, is far worse than thousands of capitalists, even if he truly believes in socialism.

@wangjuhai
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I'm also a socialist. I just think that anything is better than the emperor situation in China. One man who's lost in touch with reality, is far worse than thousands of capitalists, even if he truly believes in socialism.

Throughout history. In the critical period of a country, what is needed is not democracy but a strong leadership group that can unite all national forces. Is the leader of this group the emperor? George Washington, Lincoln, Stalin, Putin, Mao Zedong are all emperors? So I think whether a person is an emperor does not depend on what he does, but on whether he oppresses the ruled politically, economically and ideologically to make them "surrender" to him forever. Anyway, many countries in the world want to contain China's development. What China needs now is unity, united around the central government until the industrialization and modernization of the country is completed. This is what China calls centralization rather than Xi Jinping's personal dictatorship (He is just a representative of the central). I think that in order to complete the country's industrialization and modernization, a certain degree of "corruption" and "capitalization" is acceptable (as reflected in the contents of this repository). Therefore, China must also be vigilant against the bureaucratic capitalist class within China stealing the modernization fruits of the proletariat.

I feel that many English-speaking people do not really understand the history of China, the Soviet Union and Asia, and even demonize them. Maybe cultural or political reasons?

machine translation, manual correction

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