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Since I've seen multiple people complain about this on Linux, the old solution of linking libdl.so.2 to libdl.so is still required for Vulkan. (Moved here from my reply below for better visibility.) If you're still unable to initialise the renderer you can find the correct location for libdl.so.2 on your system with this command:
If you're running a wayland session try running the game with The freeze / crash but input works thing I'm not sure of any causes yet. I'm mostly seeing this with mobile gpus even on windows? |
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This didn't work for me, fwiw. Not sure where to look for logs. |
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Does your game give you an error saying it failed to initialise the renderer? Or are you getting a crash? |
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Failed to initialise renderer, but it actually did work, I just needed to link |
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Forgot different linux distros can't agree on consistent locations, added a command to find where the lib is if it's not in the location of the original command. |
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After switching to Vulkan, when entering gameplay my osu! lazer would flicker and freeze. It sounded like I could still interact with elements on the screen while frozen, then eventually it would hard crash for me. This behavior was consistent between restarting the game and did not stop until switching renderers. PC Specs: Logs: Video: |
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I'm getting mostly the same performance on Linux with Vulkan as I did with OpenGL, the main issues I've had related to performance are horrible lag spikes in the main menu when I first open the game (normally ~1k with OpenGL, ~180-200 on Vulkan) but this disappears shortly. I also have the lag spikes occasionally when returning to the main menu. I'm also getting around 50-100 less frames in song select but it returns to normal after around 10 seconds. I have gotten one hard crash when entering gameplay with Vulkan after around an hour of gameplay, here's the error:
I've only gotten this error once |
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I simply get my renderer set back to Automatic upon restarting osu!. PC Specs (Laptop): |
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Hi @Stoppedpuma, this doesn't work for the Flatpak version of osu!. From the logs, it seems to be looking for I tried entering the sandbox and symlinking to it while inside of the sandbox ( Any solutions here? |
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@Skaldebane /usr seems to be blacklisted for modifications from the flatpak sandbox level, I don't know flatpak very well at all so I'd recommend looking around for other users having a similar request of wanting to use system libraries and see if they found a solution. The closest I've found to a solution is /run/host seems to be writeable to, I don't know / think this would work? I'm afraid for flatpak I can't help very much if at all as if I ever use a flatpak it's mostly just set and forget with some basic permissions. Is there a specific reason you're using flatpak instead of the appimage / aur / whatever else? |
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@Stoppedpuma Thanks, I'll look into it. I just use Flatpak for everything so I installed osu! as a Flatpak (in fact, I discovered osu! for the first time in Flathub!), which makes updates conveniently managed by the system as well as .desktop files. But I'll probably switch to the osu AppImage (and use some AppImage manager that creates .desktop files etc...) (I use Fedora so no |
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Makes sense, if you want auto updates the linux build doesn't have them but it will automatically check. You can use the appimage.zsync for auto updates though. If you're concerned or just generally want to lock down osu! in a sandbox or other something similar I recommend making an SELinux or Apparmor profile as an alternative. |
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This one will be fixed by a series of PRs stemming from ppy/vk#1 |
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Swtiching to the Metal (Experimental) renderer causes several HUD elements to disappear and causes the game to flicker constantly. I restarted my MacBook and reinstalled lazer a few times by now but the problem still remains, the game still runs normally when I switch back to Metal. This might not be relevant but I'll list this here just for more information, this is running on a MacBook Pro (2020):
Screenshot: Video (sorry for the bad quality): example.mp4 |
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Clip: In my opinion, the two new renderers, Vulkan Ex and Direct 3D11 Ex, are still not as good as the best one, OpenGL. Since the mod I'm playing is the mod that consumes the most graphics, I'm pretty sure my test is correct. |
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D3D11 vs D3D11 (Experimental)D3D11 (Experimental) feels more stable, and according to captures it is slightly better in low% metrics on my machine
Vulkan (Experimental)It runs, although not very successfully. First, Vulkan (Experimental) doesn't seem to respect the GPU choice in Nvidia Optimus (hybrid graphics) systems:
Second, it crashes in a lot of cases, like opening the Playing Now overlay, switching to song select (occasionally), and gameplay start: crash.mp4LogsLogs cut off without any relevant information Event Viewer ErrorsApplication error .NET Runtime System InfoDriversRecently updated for both my Intel iGPU and the Nvidia dGPU |
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@akai-hana are you using a compositor / compositor disabling script on x11? |
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Same thing happens on me, but without that much flickering. And I personally noticed this mostly happen when exiting a map, but it seems like it's not just specific to that, since just trying to download a map triggered that too. It doesn't happen always or frequently for me though, just in rare cases. Edit 1: As mentioned above, after crash, there's a chance that we lose all the maps. Doesn't happen all the time. I'm going to upload a whole 2-minute video, since I was experimenting with renderers window modes (to reproduce the bug), and it might somehow be related to that. The crash happens at around 1:45 (with Vulkan renderer). Game LogsEvent Viewer Logs.NET Runtime Crash Event LogApplication Error Crash Logdxdiag Information |
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I am getting the same AccessViolationException as others using Vulkan, it runs fine at first then visual glitches start occurring and eventually crash. For me, takes 10+ mins or so to start seeing the issues I'm guessing because running a beefy card Also here is a crash dump if it would help |
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@Stoppedpuma i dont do any compositing. I run awesomewm compositorless. Sorry for really late reply, i dont check notifs often. |
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No worries, I think I'm able to reproduce the lower framerate visual and input lag very slightly as well. I wasn't able to notice this on Sway with max_render_time but I am able to notice this on Hyprland with tearing enabled. |
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win10, surface pro 6 (i5-8250u + uhd620), autoplay this map https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/513731#osu/1094998 with storyboard enabled. FPS observed from the counter at bottom-right: stable (stable has no argon skin so tested with stable default skin): 45-60fps |
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The cursor trail while paused doesn't fade out, making it look weird. Only with the experimental metal renderer.
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I'm on Linux with an Nvidia GPU(GTX 1650 SUPER), 16Gb RAM and an Intel if-10400F CPU. The Vulkan option feels almost the same as OpenGL but the screen sometimes freezes completely but moving the cursor and pressing key binds still interacts with the elements and the audio still works. Closing the game in this "frozen" state freezes my entire computer for a few seconds. The "frozen" state happens randomly for me. EDIT: Deferred OpenGL behaves worse for me than regular. I can see Vulkan performs better than OpenGL after using it more. |
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I'm on the latest windows 11 release with an rtx 3080. Vulkan is very hit or miss, most of the time showing a garbled mess/flickering when launching a beatmap, seemingly at random times. So for example sometimes it loads the beatmap and I can move the cursor for a few frames, after which it starts flickering. I've also had some times when it would start flickering right when the fade out happens (so when the game goes from the loading screen to the actual map ui). Dxdiag: Video showcase: Osu.2024.04.13.-.15.45.30.15.mp4Logs: |
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I'm using Linux and the Vulkan (Experimental) option behaves just like OpenGL for me (which is great).
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i tried vulkan on windows, worked fine with default argon skin, after switching to my usual gameplay skin, my entire OS (Windows) Froze, no BSOD, just everything was frozen so that it required a hard reset |
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OS: Arch Linux (up-to-date) |
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I don't know if this will help you or not but here |
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@getkirill If you're using wayland can you try to launch the game using this variable Full command in case you don't know how to use variables: |
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@Stoppedpuma i'm on X11 |
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I'm seeing this consistently with mobile gpus, display server shouldn't be a concern at this point I don't believe? |
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@NotRealSean setting VK_DRIVER_FILES didn't help |
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GPU: AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT I did some short tests for both of the new deferred renderers. In most gameplay situations, I did not notice a difference as they all hit the 1000hz draw limiter most of the time. No stutters either. Differences become more apparent in the menus and overlays of the game, where both Vulkan and deferred OpenGL have noticeably worse performance, to the point of dropping below my display refresh rate.
I can do more accurate testing with actual measurements and different scenarios, but I dont think this would be useful currently. |
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Both renderers have the same problem. iOS 17.4.1 It only happens when I minimize the game immediately after starting I will upload logs today later |
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the experimental just runs at 60 - 120 FPS, which is already okay. i only prefer D3D11 than OpenGL, because that's more laggier than i expected since i'm running Mesa. (which is OpenGL's fallback if most of the old GPUs doesn't run the latest versions of OpenGL and/or the GPU was stuck on the old OpenGL versions) here is my entire spec that i used in this experimental: also, here's the dxdiag text file for more info: |
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tI used Direct3D 11 (Experimental) cus why not, but I noticed it behaves very poorly when it comes to maps with very high slider density/large sliders (mainly aspire type maps). |
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Oh shit actually this is just a lazer issue in general, not the experimental renderer's fault (I went back to Direct3D 11 stable and still had performance issues), ig I just haven't played aspire maps on lazer until today |
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Using Vulkan crashes on start up OS: Windows 11 dxdiag for more information: |
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Depth mod1 only with the experimental Metal renderer seems to cause osu!lazer to eat up a lot of memory that doesn't get freed, which can make the system run out of memory (happened to me once during normal gameplay while osu!lazer was using 25.83 GB of memory).
Logs from the testing session: Other info:
(Again, unsubscribing from this discussion. Please mention me explicitly when replying.) Footnotes
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I am having problems with massive VRAM (and consequently actual RAM) consumption on Linux when using OpenGL deferred (from #27924). I am overlaying output from AMDGPU_TOP to show the GPU usage. SpecsOS: Arch Linux, KDE Plasma 6.0.4 X11, Kernel 6.8.7-arch1-1 OpenGL deferred & Unlimited (scroll to end of video to see the final VRAM size):The gameplay starts stuttering from the lack of VRAM in the end. Funnily enough, the game doesn't take up actual VRAM, just GTT (actual RAM), causing high memory pressure on my 8GB laptop. Logs for this testing session:1713506691.auth.log Vulkan deferred & Unlimited (I messed up encoder settings for this one):Turns out running osu at unlimited FPS is bad, the renderer could push out 500 fps and still make the game laggy. Running the game at lower FPS generally helps, but induces a bit of latency. Logs for this testing session:1713509414.runtime.log Reference (OpenGL)This is using the original renderer. It has some lag spikes, but overall performs quite well. Logs for this testing session:1713510617.auth.log Takeaways
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windows 11 22H2 build 22621.3447 NVIDIA TITAN X (Pascal) Can run for a while and then there are graphics glitches and then crashes If you have epilepsy, don't watch and it will leave a zombie process, and will lock some(?) dll file and database file |
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Game: 2024.412.1.0 on .NET 8.0.4 Occasional crashes, mainly some rendering issues.
In ctb mode, the rendering of fruits in the argon theme doesn't render as expected compared to DirectX 11 and OpenGL, an issue that existed when Vulkan support wasn't available and DXVK was used This issue exists both when the 1713539929.runtime.log |
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Same experience as another Linux user with Vulkan freezing all displays after 2-3 minutes of having osu! open. I linked Audio, keyboard, and mouse still work allowing me to press ESC a few times until the game closes. Less than one minute later everything unfreezes. Attaching logs and info below. I'm a little too sleepy to look more into it today but if there's something else I can look for let me know. GPU memory page fault Xid 31 FAULT_PDE ACCESS_TYPE_VIRT_READ /var/log/syslog - end of log related to osu! using osu_2024.412.1.AppImage Distro: Linux Mint 21.1 Xfce |
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try running nvk instead. |
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dxdiag report: DxDiag.txt
I tested the different renderers on a single beatmap diff across all the renderer options.
I ran performance logging in GeForce Experience and took a screenshot during a break in the map to get a sample frame time and FPS from in-game. GeForce Experience logging (199 samples, ~100 seconds) - Mean values with 95% CI (Data)
In-game data (1 sample)
The D3D11 experimental renderer did not feel very different for me from the current D3D11 renderer. EDIT: In-game data and GFE samples were taken from separate runs. |
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Seems a lot of people are mentioning the Vulkan crashing. I'll throw in a screen recording and a set of logs in case it's useful. 2024-04-28.00-00-07-cut.mp4 |
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I have a problem with Vulkan, and it is that from using it for a while without closing the game, when I retry a beatmap it resoult on a bad framerate (from 660 fps (limited) to 240) and idk why. This is the logs from the latest time it happened: |
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My experience with Vulkan is quite bizarre, I first tested it on linux (PopOS, ubuntu-based) but it failed to initialize. On windows it initialze and the UI works. But when in game nothing displays and a lot of random visual noise appears and the game is visually broken. So I had to revert to Direct3D11 (experimental variant seems a lot more responsive, with micro-stutter when loading things but definitively less 100) which has a poor latency. Like I got random 100 with this renderer. OpenGL seems the more viable option for now. I have a GTX 1050 Max-Q (Laptop) paired with a i5-9300H and 16go of RAM. |
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Actually, I reinstalled arch and it now works fine |
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I made an issue about this in osu-framework (ppy/osu-framework#6285) but I guess I'll repost my findings here. I am noticing a lot of people reporting similar things, either by making new issues or just posting here. I have some slightly more useful information than what I've seen posted here but other issues have provided similar information to mine, such as #28039 and this comment here: #27659 (comment) PC Specs:CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Game client version:2024.412.1-lazer Description:@shavitush helped me debug this locally using x64dbg and dnSpy. I've started encountering an issue where my osu!lazer would just crash every time, without fail, when either:
What tends to happen usually is that my game would completely freeze over, begin flickering, while the audio in the background would continue. Sometimes I'm able to interact with UI elements while the game is frozen but this isn't consistent. The game crashes silently without an error message. This is only an issue when the game is in full screen mode, Windowed & Borderless don't seem to be affected. While debugging, we encountered anomalies where the game silently crashed without an error when entering song select. We did, however, manage to catch the crash regarding the results screen once but couldn't replicate it again. We forgot to take a screenshot of it but the top of the call stack threw an exception saying that memory is trying to be written to a non-accessible page and the module was ppy.Veldrid or something among those lines, with function calls starting with Under Direct3D11, it works fine. I recorded what I could regarding this with OBS here: |
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After the recent update (2024.519.1), switching renderer to Vulkan while using Wayland results in the game refusing the open, I was able to get the game working again by editing framework.ini and setting the renderer back to OpenGL, and Vulkan seems to work fine on X11, if it helps, I'm using KDE Plasma 6.0.4, and had __SDL_VIDEODRIVER=wayland set (but it still crashed without that argument), and I run osu! with AMD Integrated Graphics (my cpu is an AMD Ryzen 5 6600HS). |
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TypeCrash to desktop Bug descriptionSometimes while using the experimental vulkan and i go into my beat maps its glitches really bad and the UI just stays stuck or when i try to play a song. I don't know if it's my hardware, it shouldn't be because I do have good specs, but it just freezes. (May be because I play on win?) Screenshots or videos
Version2024.412.1 Logs |
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It's been reported many times above that VK is unstable for most people, so it's not just your hardware. We should wait for a fix. |
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Hello circle clickers. The latest release brings some new options to the renderer settings dropdown:
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