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Future development to support RF >3.2 #413

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test-fullautomation opened this issue Dec 16, 2020 · 75 comments
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Future development to support RF >3.2 #413

test-fullautomation opened this issue Dec 16, 2020 · 75 comments

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@test-fullautomation
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test-fullautomation commented Dec 16, 2020 •
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Dear reader,

I try to use RobotFramework 4.0b1 and latest RED, but unfortunately it seems that it doesn’t load the Builtin-Libraries.
E.g. it writes “unknown keyword ‘log’”.
Unchanged workspace with e.g. 3.2.1 RobotFramework works without issue.

I’m happy for any idea how to solve this issue because I would like to stay with the 4.0 version.

Thank you,
Thomas

This is related to:
https://forum.robotframework.org/t/red-doesnt-find-builtin-libraries-with-robotframework-4-0b1/1100/3?u=thpoll
@michalanglart
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Hi,

RED does not support RF 4.0 yet

@Snooz82
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Snooz82 commented Dec 16, 2020

@michalanglart
the Beta1 should be in a state that you can have a look how it is build.

you basically have to maintain two things.

first:

elements are now all packet into on node. (so /keywordspec/keywords/kw)
is in

Arguments are not longer a list of string representations. they are now structured.

But you can just access the //arguments/arg[repr] attribute. It will contain same content that was before in 

<kw name="Click" source=".pyenv/versions/3.8.0/lib/python3.8/site-packages/Browser/keywords/interaction.py" lineno="252">
            <arguments repr="selector: str, button: MouseButton = left, clickCount: int = 1, delay: timedelta | None = None, position_x: float | None = None, position_y: float | None = None, force: bool = False, noWaitAfter: bool = False, *modifiers: KeyboardModifier">
                <arg kind="POSITIONAL_OR_NAMED" required="true" repr="selector: str">
                    <name>selector</name>
                    <type>str</type>
                </arg>
                <arg kind="POSITIONAL_OR_NAMED" required="false" repr="button: MouseButton = left">
                    <name>button</name>
                    <type>MouseButton</type>
                    <default>left</default>
                </arg>
                <arg kind="POSITIONAL_OR_NAMED" required="false" repr="clickCount: int = 1">
                    <name>clickCount</name>
                    <type>int</type>
                    <default>1</default>
                </arg>
                <arg kind="POSITIONAL_OR_NAMED" required="false" repr="delay: timedelta | None = None">
                    <name>delay</name>
                    <type>timedelta</type>
                    <type>None</type>
                    <default>None</default>
                </arg>
                <arg kind="POSITIONAL_OR_NAMED" required="false" repr="position_x: float | None = None">
                    <name>position_x</name>
                    <type>float</type>
                    <type>None</type>
                    <default>None</default>
                </arg>
                <arg kind="POSITIONAL_OR_NAMED" required="false" repr="position_y: float | None = None">
                    <name>position_y</name>
                    <type>float</type>
                    <type>None</type>
                    <default>None</default>
                </arg>
                <arg kind="POSITIONAL_OR_NAMED" required="false" repr="force: bool = False">
                    <name>force</name>
                    <type>bool</type>
                    <default>False</default>
                </arg>
                <arg kind="POSITIONAL_OR_NAMED" required="false" repr="noWaitAfter: bool = False">
                    <name>noWaitAfter</name>
                    <type>bool</type>
                    <default>False</default>
                </arg>
                <arg kind="VAR_POSITIONAL" required="false" repr="*modifiers: KeyboardModifier">
                    <name>modifiers</name>
                    <type>KeyboardModifier</type>
                </arg>
            </arguments>
            <doc>Simulates mouse click on the element found by ``selector``.</doc>
            <shortdoc>Simulates mouse click on the element found by ``selector``.</shortdoc>
            <tags>
                <tag>PageContent</tag>
                <tag>Setter</tag>
            </tags>
        </kw>

@michalanglart
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Thanks René @Snooz82!

I had a look. It does not seem complicated too much although we cannot just change our existing implementation as we did between version 1 and 2 of specifications as the structure changes too much. Since we want to support both 3.x and 4.0 we need to provide two implementations and hide them behind the interfaces so that they would behave the same from the perspective of the code which uses that.

@test-fullautomation
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Hi both,
thank you for your comments.
Looks like I wait for a solution for this issue.
Please inform me when a solution is there. I would support testing. You can also give me test builds.
Thomas

@michalanglart
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Ok, sure. We can provide you with the test builds

@zied-cision
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Hello guys, any news for supporting RF 4.0 ?

@michalanglart
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Hi,

I hope the support to some extent should be possible probably around the time RF 4.0 would be released. However I'm not sure yet about handling all the new syntax.

@adrianyorke
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adrianyorke commented Mar 4, 2021 •
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Hi team,

We were researching for known compatibility challenges with RF 4.0 + RED and we discovered this issue.

One of our testers was having a problem specifically with RF 4.0b3:
image

Let me know if this is a different problem and I will raise a separate issue.

RF 4.0 officially releases next week although it will be a while yet before our company adopts RF 4.0 as the default version.

Are you able to indicate when RED might have a compatible version?

Thanks,
Adrian

@michalanglart
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Can't tell now, sorry.

We're very busy with other projects currently. We should have some time for RED in coming weeks and some work was already done for RF 4.0 but as of now I don't know yet how much work is needed.

@Lokeshwaran21
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Robot Framework 4.0 is a new major release with lot of big new feature, Please Make RED supporting RF 4.0 ASAP

@zied-cision
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UP

You made an excellent work on RED guys, it's really got the best UX for Robot.
Unfortunately, we couldn't upgrade to RF4 until RED fully support it.

@adrianyorke
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adrianyorke commented Mar 24, 2021 •
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UPDATE: Robot Framework 4.0 was officially released 11.3.2021:
https://github.com/robotframework/robotframework/releases

@michalanglart : I believe there be a few changes for RED in order to be compatible with RF 4.0. Is there anything the community can do to help? Post it here and you might get support.

@rikardndreu
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We are stuck on robotframework 3.2.2 and hopefully RED will support 4.0 soon.

Cheers.

@ericbjones
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+1 add RED support for RF 4.0 🙏 🙏

@DanielPenning
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+1 add RED support for RF 4.0.

RED is such a useful tool, but RF 4 brings a ton of useful features so upgrading is quite appealing.

@luqi-qa
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luqi-qa commented Apr 5, 2021

+1

Can't wait for RED support with RF4

@Loverineaux
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+1
Please add support for RF 4.0 in RED

@otemek
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otemek commented Apr 16, 2021

+1
Please?

@liangwang-syton
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+1
Can't wait for RED support with RF4

@jmarcedwards
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+1
Yet another shameless plug for RF4 support in RED.
"Love the RED!"

@abdou-rajawi
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+1

Add RED Support with RF4 Please.

@IanBingWu
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Add RED Support with RF4 Please.

@WingTelexis
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#421 (comment)
An official message that they will start development for RF4.0 👍

No, there is no solution until RED will support RF 4.0

The PR 418 will only make this exception disappear but there are more changes in RF 4.0 which requires RED to change in order to properly run tests.

We're about to start development for RF4.0

@liangwang-syton
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活捉老乡一枚 @IanBingWu

@Zeckie Zeckie mentioned this issue May 7, 2021
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@vvelusamy1
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i hope RED development started already. Expecting the fixed version of RED sooner so that we can move to make use of RF 4.x

@zied-cision
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Same here.

@Tim-QA
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Tim-QA commented May 19, 2021

Can someone from the development team please tell us the current status and when will Red be supported

@adrianyorke
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For those of you following this issue, if your needs are urgent then you may wish to explore alternatives until RF4 compatible RED becomes available.

One popular alternative is Robot Framework Language Server which is available as an extension in VS Code:
https://robocorp.com/docs/developer-tools/visual-studio-code/lsp-extension#what-is-the-language-server-protocol-lsp-and-why-is-it-useful

@valentijnpeters
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How can we help to make RED available for RBFW 4?

@Tim-QA
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Tim-QA commented Jan 20, 2022

Also from my side please keep-alive RED.

@michalanglart
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@Snooz82 Yes, it is in deep hibernation for now. In past we had few persons working on it full time. Now from old team there are just 2 of us still in company - myself and our great tester @joanna-may . We were assigned however with different projects which occupies us 100% or even more (in my case much more).

I do like this project and I would be happy to work on it but the reality is that I simply do no have time for it now.

Having said that: we found a person which should be able to spent some time with RED - but firstly needs to be introduced and needs to explore the code a little bit.

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nanduIyer commented Jan 20, 2022 via email

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@Snooz82 Yes, it is in deep hibernation for now. In past we had few persons working on it full time. Now from old team there are just 2 of us still in company - myself and our great tester @joanna-may . We were assigned however with different projects which occupies us 100% or even more (in my case much more).

I do like this project and I would be happy to work on it but the reality is that I simply do no have time for it now.

Having said that: we found a person which should be able to spent some time with RED - but firstly needs to be introduced and needs to explore the code a little bit.

We all cross fingers!!! Good luck and waiting for any news from you guys !

@adrian-evo
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While I agree that RED had his value in the past, when we had no other good enough alternatives, I don't agree that today this will be a big loss for our community. I agree it is difficult to switch to another way of working after many years, but this is just an IDE and it is not justifiable to use old RF 3.x just for the sake of using a familiar IDE, when you can switch to RF 4.x and use a more modern IDE, like Visual Studio Code or Pycharm as you like, i.e. any IDE supported by Robocorp company.

@everlighting
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Any updates team?

This was referenced May 7, 2022
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Zeckie commented May 7, 2022

The scope of this issue has expanded from when it was originally created. Would it be possible to change the title (something like Future development of RED to support Robot Framework > 3.2) and pin it to the top of the issues list?

@michalanglart michalanglart pinned this issue May 13, 2022
@michalanglart michalanglart changed the title RED doesn't find Builtin-Libraries with RobotFramework 4.0b1 Future development to support RF >3.2 May 13, 2022
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@NikitaOstr
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@michalanglart Hi Michal! Do you have any ETA, if exist, to starting to work on supporting RF4 and above? Please!!!!!

@michalanglart
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Hello. I still cannot offer any timeline. I'm currently not involved however only some limited work was done recently and it was not yet about the changes in the code but rather setting up the environments for building & automated tests.

I'll let you know once it would be clear what's in the future with RED

@everlighting
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Any updates @michalanglart

@NikitaOstr
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Hello. I still cannot offer any timeline. I'm currently not involved however only some limited work was done recently and it was not yet about the changes in the code but rather setting up the environments for building & automated tests.

I'll let you know once it would be clear what's in the future with RED

Hi Michal! What do you think about sharing your tasks to our community? I'm sure we have here a lot of professional programmers that can contribute to our RED, what do you think? Perhaps this is our last chance to push it from that dead point)

@valentijnpeters
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valentijnpeters commented Sep 16, 2022 via email

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NikitaOstr commented Sep 17, 2022 •
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Install Microsoft Visual Studio and try Robot Framework with it. You will be astonished! You will be blown away! Furthermore, you don't even want to ever revert to Eclipse.

I really tried MVS but did not find two mandatory things to me (PyCharm and Eclipse have those features):

  1. running test/suite from configurations by hitting play button
  2. full debug run with breakpoints
    Can you share how to configure all this staff in MVS please?
    Also, are you sure about MVS and not VSCode?

@Snooz82
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Snooz82 commented Sep 17, 2022

Dont use Visual Studio.

use VSCode!
with the Plugin RobotCode which has debugging and running tests with a play button.

@avancil
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avancil commented Sep 22, 2022

I use Eclipse, and am sad that this plugin doesn't work with current Robot versions. My workaround for now is to use https://github.com/NitorCreations/RobotFramework-EclipseIDE which at least gives me syntax highlighting. It doesn't give an outline, definition lookup, debugging, or much of anything else, but at least I can read the files.

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valentijnpeters commented Sep 22, 2022 via email

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we can pause execution in between in red but vs code i don't see that option @valentijnpeters
@michalanglart any updates?

@AshaSaxena11
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Visual studio code is i=not recognizing variable outside robot file , like if variable is defined in python file ,VScode is not able to recognise it

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valentijnpeters commented Nov 20, 2022 via email

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Sorry @Snooz82 and @valentijnpeters , but in my opinion VSCode with RobotCode extension is not better than RED. I tried more other Eclipse, PyCharme and VSCode extension, but there is one problem where they all fail:

  • If I use a keyword, which has an argument, and I add there an other keyword, navigation and autocomplete doesn't work with/on the other keyword, e.g.:

Keyword1 arg1=sthing arg2=Keyword2

So I use RED for coding and PyCharm for running :/

@petr-ixi
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@michalanglart or anybody else, is there at least small chance to update to newest Robot framework? Please, this is great tool you created and would be really sad to leave it.

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valentijnpeters commented Jun 3, 2023 via email

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@michalanglart or anybody else, is there at least small chance to update to newest Robot framework? Please, this is great tool you created and would be really sad to leave it.

I don't think the project will be actively developed within company anytime in the future unfortunately.

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