we need a logo for our planned community t-shirt #14
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Updated the draft with a swiss cross and the text Mozilla Switzerland. |
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I liked it more without the cross. The white cross and the white eye are to strong. The cross makes he looking a bit pregnant (or just fat). Did you adjust the sizes for the cross? I hate my self saying this, but Comic Sans fits very well here. :D |
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idea... make the eye a small cross! |
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I like the general concept, but I agree that there are minor things to improve. But we're getting there! Great work Marco! First, http://comicsanscriminal.com/ |
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I'm not sure how well fuzzy borders (of the ground) are printable. It's for sure a lot harder to print nicely. |
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OK folks, thanks for all the feedback. I've gotten round to another overhaul. Old & new version side by side for comparison.
In addition, I changed the dino's color. The fierce red didn't help the cuteness. |
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I really like the new face, makes it a lot friendlier :) Crazy idea, what about having a family of dinos to choose from? Like that we would all have kind of the same t-shirt but different colors/maybe forms... just an idea :) Regarding color, I would stick with a red color, maybe something less bright though. What about something like that? https://michaelkohler.info/mozilla/tshirt_logo/logo.svg And since Marco did an amazing job keeping it readable, I even could come up with another proposal: https://michaelkohler.info/mozilla/tshirt_logo/logo2.svg which is a lot simpler, but no idea if you like it as well or not :) |
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@DocZweirad ah, forgot to write that, we're now missing a "d" at the end. Couldn't fix it though :( Update: looks like content blocking is strong on this one and we can't load the font.. Update 2: the SVGs on my server are now loading the CSS with https, like that it works :) (Sorry for all the bugmail, I stop now) |
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@MichaelKohler: The truncated text should be easy to fix by adding a textLength="97" attribute to the element and changing the actual text to "Mozilla Switzerland" (without any extra spaces). Individual t-shirts are likely to increase the cost. On the other hand, choosing that path would open the way for really individual t-shirts (as in "bring your own design"). I like the new red. I also managed to implement Fira Sans with a much softer/rounder touch. I'm still not completely happy with the dino's face, but maybe one of you guys has a great idea on how to improve it. And last but not least another new idea for a swiss cross on the dino: http://marco.dilbert.ch/new_dino.svg |
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We should get rid of spaces in favor of bug 371787. The new cross and the color are a bit to Swiss Army like. We shouldn't loose the context to Mozilla. At least one characteristic for brand recognition should be kept. The face is much better now! |
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Can we have the font as it is in the new one, but get rid of the circle around the i point? Apart from that I really like the new fontstyle. Interestingly enough a coworker identified this as Swiss Army like as well. Maybe this is not a good idea after all, even though I really liked it. Regarding brand recognition, this is a good point as well.. Mh, any ideas here? I changed the color of the dino to the official red, what do you think? https://michaelkohler.info/mozilla/tshirt_logo/new_dino.svg |
This is not fixed yet, but a good improvement for the future. |
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I like the last suggestion. The shape around the cross is just used in traditional contexts more often: army, post office, ... Three small things:
All three would simplify the logo a bit, which might be helpful for printing etc. in the future. I really like the idea of multiple dinos, just so we could use different ones for different things, but that's something we can easily expand on in the future I think. |
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ah one more idea to play with/simplify: change the text color to the same color as the swiss cross |
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Brand recognition with Mozilla is pretty hard, as there still only exists a wordmark and not much more, at least to my knowledge. See https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/styleguide/identity/mozilla/branding/ |
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The special i-dots may be an ugly Mac-specific rendering bug. I can reproduce it on my MacBook Pro, but neither in a Windows VM on the same machine nor on a BSD box nor on my Flame. If somebody can confirm this, could you please file a bug upstream (maybe with a simplified testcase)? |
I could reproduce this on Mac OS X only as well. Though it's cross browser. Where do we report this then? g
Voila, https://michaelkohler.info/mozilla/tshirt_logo/new_dino2.svg |
There are official colors though: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/styleguide/identity/mozilla/color/ |
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I like it! Now only the eye is white, try making that brown as well? |
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I'd go with white for the eye and the cross (and the text too if we choose to print it on dark t-shirts). |
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reopened this
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Could somebody test in Chrome/Safari? The font doesn't align..
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It's probably the textLength/textPath combo they don't support. Confirmed for Safari/Chrome on Mac. |
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In order to keep the ideas flowing, how about a swiss map with a cross? (The cross hasn't been misplaced btw, it currently marks the area with the highest concentration of Mozillians... ) And since it makes the dino look like a red cross supporter, should he also wear a collar with a Schnapps barrel...? 😜 |
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This might be less Army-like. I like it! |
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Everybody's favorite Brontosaurus baby has been seen in Switzerland, watching Mountain View from afar. Most text artifacts are fixed now (except for the Apple™ iDots, which might be a feature instead of a bug). We may have to organize a workshop or a conference call in order to agree on the final t-shirt design. Or do you think we'll reach a consensus here? |
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I would vote for this one: https://michaelkohler.info/mozilla/tshirt_logo/new_dino2.svg Do we want to have a list of good designs and then vote on them?
I tried with the eye in the same color as the text, but then the dino looks like he has a flue. |
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Can we move ahead here? Do we want to create a voting? If so, I think those are our candidates: |
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imho, the 4 candidates are too much of everything. i personally would prefer a shirt with just our favicon (which i like very much): https://wiki.mozilla.org/Switzerland grrd |
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Most of the technical stuff may already be present. At least we now have an ample collection of material from which to choose. Reaching consensus may be a greater challenge however. If somebody wants to pick up the torch going forward (organize a voting, consolidate designs, get quotes, place an order, etc.) you're very welcome. I may not have as much time to invest as I'd like in the near future. Thus unassigning myself. |
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@DocZweirad I'm getting 404s on the ideas hosted on your website. Could you please check? :) |
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Yeah, there was a little accident last week-end. Wiped out almost everything. ;-) |
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@DocZweirad those two would be really great: http://marco.dilbert.ch/map_dino.svg Then I'll start a voting with these three (and I think we will also create some with the normal avatar if there is interest): https://michaelkohler.info/mozilla/tshirt_logo/new_dino2.svg |
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New URLs: https://michaelkohler.info/mozilla/tshirt_logo/new_dino2.svg Voting: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/10LEArWKkf363vJ9uUt1gta0pJHHz71XWpGmhPwz9YEc/viewform @freaktechnik are those the right questions? If so, I'll send it out through the mailing list |
@MichaelKohler maybe we should also try to find the preferred colour (or something toward that), since that's also deciding. Maybe just three options "light", "dark" and "colourful". |
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Added and sent to the mailing list. Open for voting for the next 14 days. |
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Last reminder to vote, I will check the results by tomorrow or Friday. |
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Looks like we have a pretty interesting result. We have 7 responses. Out of these, 4 vote for "None of these" while all 7 responds indicate, that they would also like one with the avatar on it. So, do we want to be pragmatic and just print t-shirts with the avatar on it and that's it? Further, I think we should also include the "mozilla" workmark somewhere. How about having the same back as http://www.ebay.com/itm/Adopt-Mozilla-Limited-Edition-T-Shirt-Black-Dinosaur-Computer-Browser-Large-/262125038490 ? |
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Given the discussions about the new mozilla wordmark, I'm putting this to blocked. |
During one of our meetings (Liip Zurich, Nov 2015) we've been discussing the idea of a mozilla.ch community t-shirt. We more or less agreed on a (cute) dino to grace it. Inspired by the ones in the header of http://dromaeo.com/, I started a draft which may serve as the foundation of a possible final design: http://marco.dilbert.ch/moz_dino.svg
I'm open to ideas, suggestions, discussions, alternatives, etc. Let the feedback roll.
Oh, and if you think that baby dino lacks cuteness, then take a load of this... ;-)
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