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Any progress on this? It would be very useful if you are developing and/or testing on live android device... |
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If somebody wants to step up and contribute, I'm more than happy to have the Android support, but as it stands, we don't really have enough developers to justify this. |
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I'm willing to take a crack at it, if you can give me pointers. |
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I sadly can't give you any pointers really.
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I built the app locally (had to do some updates to gradle etc). I get the following: |
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@Genome36 might be able to help |
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Only tangentially related, but I got it to build on Linux on Dex on Samsung, so it works in a Linux Container (not the main phone though). I have also read that you need root to control an actual pointer? But i have seen "Wireless Mouse" applications that send it over wifi so I know it's possible. |
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You don't need root. |
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Could you link us to your fork with the updated grade?
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I built the app locally (had to do some updates to gradle etc). I get the
following:
2019-06-24 15:11:32.497 2134-15547/org.synergy W/System.err: org.synergy.io.msgs.InvalidMessageException
2019-06-24 15:11:32.498 2134-15547/org.synergy W/System.err: at org.synergy.io.msgs.HelloMessage.<init>(HelloMessage.java:60)
2019-06-24 15:11:32.499 2134-15547/org.synergy W/System.err: at org.synergy.client.Client.handleHello(Client.java:195)
2019-06-24 15:11:32.500 2134-15547/org.synergy W/System.err: at org.synergy.client.Client.access$300(Client.java:48)
2019-06-24 15:11:32.501 2134-15547/org.synergy W/System.err: at org.synergy.client.Client$4.run(Client.java:237)
2019-06-24 15:11:32.501 2134-15547/org.synergy W/System.err: at org.synergy.base.EventQueue.dispatchEvent(EventQueue.java:135)
2019-06-24 15:11:32.503 2134-15547/org.synergy W/System.err: at org.synergy.Synergy$MainLoopThread.run(Synergy.java:64)
2019-06-24 15:11:32.504 2134-15547/org.synergy I/Synergy: Event grabbed:org.synergy.base.Log:153
2019-06-24 15:11:32.506 2134-15547/org.synergy I/Synergy: ***@***.***:org.synergy.base.Log:153
2019-06-24 15:11:32.509 2134-15547/org.synergy I/Synergy: Event grabbed:org.synergy.base.Log:153
2019-06-24 15:11:32.510 2134-15547/org.synergy I/Synergy: ***@***.***:org.synergy.base.Log:153
2019-06-24 15:11:33.519 2134-15547/org.synergy W/System.err: org.synergy.io.msgs.InvalidMessageException
2019-06-24 15:11:33.522 2134-15547/org.synergy W/System.err: at org.synergy.io.msgs.HelloMessage.<init>(HelloMessage.java:60)
2019-06-24 15:11:33.523 2134-15547/org.synergy W/System.err: at org.synergy.client.Client.handleHello(Client.java:195)
2019-06-24 15:11:33.524 2134-15547/org.synergy W/System.err: at org.synergy.client.Client.access$300(Client.java:48)
2019-06-24 15:11:33.525 2134-15547/org.synergy W/System.err: at org.synergy.client.Client$4.run(Client.java:237)
2019-06-24 15:11:33.526 2134-15547/org.synergy W/System.err: at org.synergy.base.EventQueue.dispatchEvent(EventQueue.java:135)
2019-06-24 15:11:33.527 2134-15547/org.synergy W/System.err: at org.synergy.Synergy$MainLoopThread.run(Synergy.java:64)
2019-06-24 15:11:33.529 2134-15547/org.synergy I/Synergy: Event grabbed:org.synergy.base.Log:153
2019-06-24 15:11:33.530 2134-15547/org.synergy I/Synergy: ***@***.***:org.synergy.base.Log:153
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2019-06-24 15:11:33.536 2134-15547/org.synergy I/Synergy: ***@***.***:org.synergy.base.Log:153
2019-06-24 15:11:34.540 2134-15547/org.synergy W/System.err: org.synergy.io.msgs.InvalidMessageException
2019-06-24 15:11:34.545 2134-15547/org.synergy W/System.err: at org.synergy.io.msgs.HelloMessage.<init>(HelloMessage.java:60)
2019-06-24 15:11:34.546 2134-15547/org.synergy W/System.err: at org.synergy.client.Client.handleHello(Client.java:195)
2019-06-24 15:11:34.546 2134-15547/org.synergy W/System.err: at org.synergy.client.Client.access$300(Client.java:48)
2019-06-24 15:11:34.547 2134-15547/org.synergy W/System.err: at org.synergy.client.Client$4.run(Client.java:237)
2019-06-24 15:11:34.548 2134-15547/org.synergy W/System.err: at org.synergy.base.EventQueue.dispatchEvent(EventQueue.java:135)
2019-06-24 15:11:34.548 2134-15547/org.synergy W/System.err: at org.synergy.Synergy$MainLoopThread.run(Synergy.java:64)
2019-06-24 15:11:34.550 2134-15547/org.synergy I/Synergy: Event grabbed:org.synergy.base.Log:153
2019-06-24 15:11:34.551 2134-15547/org.synergy I/Synergy: ***@***.***:org.synergy.base.Log:153
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2019-06-24 15:11:34.554 2134-15547/org.synergy I/Synergy: ***@***.***:org.synergy.base.Log:153
2019-06-24 15:11:34.557 2134-15547/org.synergy W/System.err: org.synergy.io.msgs.InvalidMessageException
2019-06-24 15:11:34.560 2134-15547/org.synergy W/System.err: at org.synergy.io.msgs.HelloMessage.<init>(HelloMessage.java:60)
2019-06-24 15:11:34.563 2134-15547/org.synergy W/System.err: at org.synergy.client.Client.handleHello(Client.java:195)
2019-06-24 15:11:34.565 2134-15547/org.synergy W/System.err: at org.synergy.client.Client.access$300(Client.java:48)
2019-06-24 15:11:34.566 2134-15547/org.synergy W/System.err: at org.synergy.client.Client$4.run(Client.java:237)
2019-06-24 15:11:34.567 2134-15547/org.synergy W/System.err: at org.synergy.base.EventQueue.dispatchEvent(EventQueue.java:135)
2019-06-24 15:11:34.568 2134-15547/org.synergy W/System.err: at org.synergy.Synergy$MainLoopThread.run(Synergy.java:64)
2019-06-24 15:12:01.870 2134-2134/org.synergy W/org.synergy: type=1400 audit(0.0:27): avc: denied { write } for name="uinput" dev="tmpfs" ino=12413 scontext=u:r:untrusted_app:s0:c512,c768 tcontext=u:object_r:uhid_device:s0 tclass=chr_file permissive=0
2019-06-24 15:12:01.906 2134-15547/org.synergy I/Synergy: Event grabbed:org.synergy.base.Log:153
2019-06-24 15:12:01.907 2134-15547/org.synergy I/Synergy: ***@***.***:org.synergy.base.Log:153
2019-06-24 15:12:01.908 2134-15547/org.synergy I/Synergy: Event grabbed:org.synergy.base.Log:153
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It should be here https://github.com/dadosch/synergy-android-7/ Please note that I think (but I don't remember exactly) that I was able to fix the message I wrote earlier (InvalidMessageException) with dadosch/synergy-android-7@2f05f23 However, when I tested the app connecting worked fine, but the mouse emulation part didn't (I think it had something to do with this file https://github.com/dadosch/synergy-android-7/blob/master/app/src/main/jni/synergy-jni.c not working properly) (But the mouse not working might also be because of my LineageOS not running some commands properly) |
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For testing, you need to run Barrier without "--enable-crypto". Current state: No mouse shown on android phone, but events should be successfully received. |
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scrcpy https://github.com/Genymobile/scrcpy/blob/master/DEVELOP.md#input-events-injection also does injecting key and mouse events. Note that they handle special keys like umlauts or fancy French characters quite well. (But I don't know wether it works without adb, but no root should be required) EDIT: I think the key part IS that it works via adb so it has the permissions to install the server with appropriate permissions. However, no cursor is shown on the device when controlled via scrcpy. If it would be possible to use their way to emulate keypresses (even if that would mean a slightly more complex installation process than simply installing a APK), I think I would prefer their way over a root-only route. Steps needed: (IMHO)
@mirh I tried out that app . While moving the "cursor" (basically a large image of a curser) with the python script worked, clicking didn't work. A different approach would be to use a bluetooth adapter on the computer to act as HID device (a bit like https://github.com/xenogenesi/hidclient, but only used when the mouse would be leaving the computer's screen), but then you would need to configure the resolution of the phone screen on the computer I suppose (Since HID mice send only relative data, don't they?) This would be universal and could be used not only for phones. |
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AFAIU the accessibility service can only interact with "accessible objects". Root+adb (which can also wireless btw) seem the two most proper routes |
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how? which adb command? |
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Is there any traction on an Android application. It can be REALLY useful when I use Samsung Dex. |
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Not officially. We have other pressing bugs and issues to catch up on, before even Android app development can be considered.. apologies. |
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Moving this is to a discussion, better suited to IMHO. I will also create a tracker issue for progress - recommendation is to use discussion for design, and tracker issue for development progress. |
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Is there any progress on the idea? |
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No - I ended up switching to ssh
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what are the possibilities you have using ssh? |
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how do u do it? which commandS? |
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Well all the things I wanted to do like copy files or open files are
possible using termux+ ssh. So instead of dragging a file over I use scp to
copy to my phone and then termux-open to open it on my phone (or vice
versa- scp files to my desktop to work on them). I have a Samsung with
Samsung Dex so sometimes I just plug my phone into an external monitor to
work directly off the phone.
You can also set up VNC on your desktop and use VNC viewer on your phone to
extend your desktop.
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thanks, it is a good workaround for advanced users, not very much suitable for general use/public. I hope that there is going to be a push on this topic once Apple releases the new function of Universal Control |
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Yes.
If you do want to try, install termux from F-Droid and read this:
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I ready everything I don't understand what you mean. |
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Is there an update? |
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I second this. If there was a way to get an Android client, it would be great. It would really complete my set up! |
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I've succesfully been using DeskDock Pro for a a year with my old phone (Android 6) an old tablet (Android 6) connected most of the times. I haven't run into any of the issues people above mention. The old phone does however disconnect often but I believe it's Android killing the process on the background. The tablet running Android 5 never disconnects. When the disconnection occurs, I usually need to replug the cable to reconnect or (much less frequently), restart DeskDock server. For that I've created an alias so it's not that big of a deal: alias ddserver="pkill -f DeskDock &>/dev/null; nohup java -jar ~/Tools/DeskDockServer.jar &>/dev/null &"While I agree a dedicated client would be less of a hassle, it does not seem to be an easy task to pull off. I had waited for a working solution to come up for at least 8 years before "rediscovering" DeskDock. I bought the Pro version many years back but didn't use it for long. Now with the Barrier support, it's useful again and I even had the license already! The app was also recently updated also, so it might be worth testing it again. The changelog mentions the invisible cursor issue on Android 11 should be fixed. |
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Does it only work wired? And do you think it's possible they'll support a wireless connection in the future? |
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What do you mean by it having Barrier support? Can Barrier be used instead of its own server? |
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Not exactly but pretty close. You'll need DeskDock Server to act as a proxy/gateway:
After done that, you can configure the Android devices and the desktop layout within Barrier. Then the Android devices show up like direct connections with a random hash as hostname which seems to be generated when the DeskDock app is installed (reinstalling the app will change the id but otherwise it'll stay the same). I doubt there are any plans for the app to get support for direct connections to Barrier..
Only wired. The connection is made through
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Hmm. I don't know why so many solutions are about simulating touch. Android has support for mouse and keyboard (I frequently connect my C type dock to my phone and use the keyboard and mouse like a normal computer). It has a mouse pointer and everything. |
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When using the DeskDock app "workaround", you'll get the cursor exactly like when connecting a mouse via Bluetooth/USB OTG. |
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You'll need touch support for pinch zooming. With DeskDock this can be done by pressing ctrl while holding the mouse button down, then moving the mouse up/down (IIRC, not at the computer right now). |
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What's this workaround? Any tutorial/blog post on it I can follow? |
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Hi so I got Barrier working with Deskdock but I can't see a mouse cursor on screen. Any tips to fix it? I'm on Windows 10, latest Deskdock server, Android 13 tablet, and the latest deskdock app. Deskdock by itself is working fine. Only that there are some connection issues now and then, and I was hoping Barrier might be some sort of improvement. I'd like to fix this and see if using Barrier is worthwhile or if I should just use deskdock normally, thanks. |
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Since it hasn't seem to come up... What about the other way around? Use Android mouse and keyboard sharing to another computer? This use to exist with Synergy and rooted device but I can't find anything current. |
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I've never specifically searched but I doubt there is as it's even more niche use case as the other way around. There seems to be a ton of apps for this purpose though. Search for "Bluetooth mouse/keyboard", "android remote" and you ought to find plenty. I'm curious, what would you use this for? If you're thinking about using an actual keyboard/mouse attached to an Android device, I'd doubt any of the types I suggested would work very well. However if you're looking a way to control video/music playback, there's likely better purpose made apps available. |
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Yeah the idea would be physical keyboard and mouse connected to Android device and then shared back to the computer. I've got a Samsung tablet with the keyboard folio and there's been a few occasions where I've wanted to use that on another machine (obviously could remote desktop or the like but was aiming for both still being functional) Niche of a niche of a niche heh |
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Hello, it seems that today there is already a solution so that the deskdock can be used through wireless debugging using the PRO Android application, I tried it a few hours ago but suddenly it disconnected, I don't know why it is, my first suspicions would be the java application and the adb package of drivers, I will continue testing and trying with my tablet, but it is exciting that it works in the same way as it would barrier Link to the possible option of using a dedock with wireless debugging: |
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It's worked great on all my devices for a very long time. However just recently my Galaxy S23 got a OneUI upgrade after which DeskDock stopped working. I sent the developer an email together with log dumps and a detailed explanation of the setup etc. It's been more than a week with no reply. I'm afraid either the contact email is not valid or the developer has more or less abandoned the app. Not that I'm expecting to receive eternal support to an app I bought several years ago for a couple of euros... |
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I think you could try changing the server data for example in the win folder replace all that with the new platform tools package, recently I have tested it to be able to do an associated one by debugging wifi and it works, the only problem I see is that my application in the table crashes and I have to delete all the data and its configuration when I want both the mouse and the mouse to work for me. keyboard at once |
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Hola ya pude obtener una respuesta de como conectar por depuracion inalambrica Deskdocks voy a dejar mis aprendizajes aqui https://anotepad.com/notes/psx8nhsf
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I've forgot this thread. DeskDock has since been updated and now works on Android 14. |
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Here is dart implementation of Barrier Servers, and supports all servers which are based on Synergy |
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So I got Barrier working with Deskdock but I can't see a mouse cursor on screen. Any tips to fix it? I'm on Windows 10, latest Deskdock server, Android 13 tablet, and the latest deskdock app. Deskdock by itself is working fine. Only that there are some connection issues now and then, and I was hoping Barrier might be some sort of improvement. I'd like to fix this and see if using Barrier is worthwhile or if I should just use deskdock normally, thanks. Edit: I've also tested Scrcpy and its OTG mode. Works fine. Physical keyboard and mouse is detected by the tablet, I can see the cursor, it all works. I just feels its not as easy-to-use or elegant as Deskdock, especially because there are no mouse shortcuts apparently. But the implementation felt almost native. Deskdock by itself doesn't feel 'native'. I can feel it feels different. When I use DeskDock + Barrier, the keyboard works absolutely fine. And right click also works as a back button. I just can't see any cursor. Appreciate any help, as I think this solution may be what I'm looking for. |
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Hmm one more thing. I compared your Barrier log output to mine now (I replied while on the move). I don't see anything about SSL/TLS on your log. Have you set that up? It won't work properly without it. Every time my phone connects, I see this on my log: |
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Appreciate you looking into this and all the responses!
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Could you please check the errors I posted below. I am not able to get SSL working and I can't find any guide on it. Most Barrier guides just say to disable SSL. |
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I've noticed that for some reason it connects deskdock much better over WiFi when my network is 2.4hz Instead of 5ghz network |
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Okay so here's what my Barrier looks like. I just enabled SSL. But this is my log:
It continuously is doing this and fails to connect. |
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Keyboard shortcut is not the end of the world. I use a tiling window manager and rarely even touch the mouse. It's just the elegancy of moving the cursor over that I really like, but on some situations this might be preferable. I also like the fact nothing needs to be installed on the device. The developer of this app seems to have a REALLY deep understanding of Android. |
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Ok, just pressing left Alt key returns the control. Now if I could get this to work without it popping out a window I need to focus on. I'd prefer it to be headless. E.g. just press as shortcut to control the phone, then press e.g Alt to get back. |
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@ristomatti @AnshulJ999 Which platforms you guys are using ? |
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@rohitsangwan01 Ubuntu 20.04 based Linux, i3 window manager |
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After some fiddling, if I set this to my i3 configuration: Then start scrcpy with: I get this:
scrcpy window is moved off the screen with 1px offset and positioned exactly where my phone is on it's holder. If I then move my mouse over the border (marked with red here for illustration) and either click it or press Alt, I'm able to switch to the phone and pressing Alt again gets me out. I don't have any borders on unfocused apps, so if I move my mouse away, the scrpy window is not visible at all. With some more hacking I'd probably be able to make the experience even smoother but this is a good start. I think there's pro's and cons with this. With DeskDock/Barrier combo, I don't have to press a key or click a window to control the phone. However it's really tricky to do swipe gestures from the borders of the phone screen (I'm using an app that allows me to flick between the previous window by swiping from the border). With scrpy I can do that as it "grabs" the mouse and confines it to the phone. |
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@ristomatti Making a new thread here because that one had gotten too long hah. So you need this specific version here: https://tmp.rom1v.com/scrcpy/4868/3/scrcpy-pr4868.3.zip This one has the new feature. Then, scrcpy -KM --no-video --no-audio will work fine. The difference is this works in UHID, which I found better than AOA And yes, pressing left Alt returns control. I set up a hotkey in EventGhost like this:
There are a few disabled commands here that I haven't cleaned up yet. But it works. So I can just use that key to switch back and forth. I recommend trying that UHID as it might feel better to you too. @rohitsangwan01 I'm on Windows 10. And tablet is Android 13. |
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sure, publish it on your repo and have it pass all the safety and build coontrol checks: we can test when it's all green and good to go. |
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@nathaneltitane its not open source yet, wanna make it usable properly usable, and have some early feedbacks |
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i never said it had to be open, just safe to use with the available checks ready and visible on some repository somewhere - use the right license agreements on the repo to that effect |
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ok sure, will try to share a repo if i got time, but currently i haven't checked the license and all, maybe i need some help, you seems to have good knowledge of these, it would be really great if you can help |
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Perhaps something like https://choosealicense.com/ could be a start. |
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There seems to be an Android client for Synergy floating around (https://github.com/symless/synergy-android-7). I tried connecting to Barrier (and Synergy 1.10 Pro before I switched to Barrier) and I get this:
[2018-12-01T07:18:05] NOTE: accepted client connection
but nothing more.
This is probably too time-intensive to incorporate but would be nice to have if it's easy to integrate into the project linked above.
Thanks for making an awesome product!
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