Interest Check: mastodon.cncf.io?

[austinlparker]

Given the relatively high level of uncertainty around the short and long term fortunes of Twitter as a platform for communicating with our end-user community, I wanted to broach a public discussion around the CNCF operating a Mastodon instance for project communications, announcements, etc. Pretty much anything you'd use Twitter for today.

My back-of-the-napkin math would suggest that costs would be fairly low (O(tens) USD/mo) for operation in terms of fixed hosting costs. Management and maintenance would take time, obviously, but optimistically O(hours)/mo?

[jjasghar]

I'd step up to help administer this. Part of my responsibility is to help the community, and this is something i can use some work hours to help with.

[dims]

cc @caniszczyk

[jberkus]

Per slack discussion, this would need strong staff support. It may need to wait for one of CNCF's new hires to onboard. Once it exists, though, TAG-Contributor-Strategy would be interested in such an instance for announcements.

[caniszczyk]

The CNCF has always been about accommodating project choice in tools and these include social networks. We have projects that pretty much use everything out there, with guidelines here: https://github.com/cncf/foundation/blob/main/social-guidelines.md

At the moment, if projects want to use mastadon or anything else, they are welcome too! There are some good servers out there already like https://fosstodon.org and https://mastodon.social

For the CNCF/LF to host an official one, we'd have to take in staffing/moderation considerations but for right now, we are taking a wait/see approach as mastadon is still in early usage imho across all LF/CNCF projects and there are already servers out there available for folks to use in the open source community.

[austinlparker]

The problem in my mind is that while we could start an account somewhere (like fosstodon) and move it later in the event of an official instance, we'd lose our post history. I suppose that isn't the worst thing?

I'll take this back to OpenTelemetry and check on community interest.

[AkihiroSuda]

fosstodon

Fosstodon's Code of Conduct ( https://hub.fosstodon.org/coc/ ) says "Do not toot in languages other than English" 😥 .
( Their explanation: https://hub.fosstodon.org/why-fosstodon-is-english-only/ )

I'm not sure whether their Code of Conduct is compatible with the CNCF Code of Conduct 😞 . https://github.com/cncf/foundation/blob/main/code-of-conduct.md

[caniszczyk]

Thanks for pointing that out Akihiro, TIL!

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[joaquimrocha]

Hey folks, I looked into fosstodon.org for my 1st personal account on Mastodon and ended up not using it because of the English-only policy (sometimes I tweet twoot in different languages).
So I ended up creating an account on floss.social after seeing lots of accounts related to freedesktop (GNOME, KDE...) there (just in case you wanna check it out).

[clux]

Not sure the operating costs would be quite as trivial as mentioned, but there would at the very least be some very nice benefits from doing this:

• cncf verified project accounts (by virtue of sitting inside an @cncf.io mastadon instance)
• guaranteed account availability (no name clashes, via cncf controlled registration -> @kubernetes@cncf.io)
• cohesive view of cncf accounts and officials under a common banner (i.e. like what the german govenment did)
• cncf code of conduct can be set for the instance

All of these are very nice benefits, but the last one being the most pressing right now, given how little of the coc standards survives contact with the real world of twitter (being at the whimsical mercy of a megalomaniac), so this feels like a good way for cncf to put its money where its mouth is.

[dims]

OSI has opened up shop on mastodon : https://blog.opensource.org/how-osi-got-to-mastodon/

two accounts, they are:

- [@OSI@opensource.org](https://social.opensource.org/@OSI), the account of the whole organization where we’ll publish announcements and updates
- [@ed@opensource.org](https://social.opensource.org/@ed), the account of the Executive Director for conversations with me.

[jberkus]

@dims note that OSI is currently not giving anyone accounts on that server, not even board members (I'm a board member).

[dims]

@jberkus yep. got it.

[DidierHoarau]

Hi,

My opinion is that CNCF being open source, we should try to use more open technologies. For example I think it would make sense to use RSS feed more and to tell everyone that they can follow the CNCF news and updates with some of these feeds.

I realized today that there is a feed for cncf.io: https://www.cncf.io/feed/

But I think this link should be more visible and I think more things should be published with RSS feeds.