TODO: Grand Dun Morogh Rework #1149
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GizzleBizzle
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The two images at "Add abilities to Grik'nir" are the same. As for the rams on the ranch, they are supposed to have random movement. |
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Concerning Bretta
Since the unique one is already available, it's weird that both use the same, maybe there were swapped, Skolmin used female one and Bretta male one, but no evidence. |
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@Daribon Changed the duplicate screenshot for the correct one. @geo-tp I remember this conversation well. It's more of a question about the philosophy of the project:
Now, do we [aim to recreate patch 0.5.3 as accurately as it is possible] or [make it as polished/playable as possible]? |
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Found additional screenshots with more information. I will not edit the original post, since the task has already been done.
Source
Potential DisplayIDs are:
Source |
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Concerning King Magni, most likely he was moved when falling damage has been implemented and should be at its actual location for 0.5.3 (in the cave)
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Magni and the Keymaster Relocation I have marked it as Completed. The Quarry Event
Source from 0.5.5 |
* Maps - Allow for packed float on liquids data. - Cache LiquidInformation given type and height, usually liquid height remains constant, so instead of using one new object per cell, all those cells will now point to the same liquid holder. e.g. Redridge lake used 16384 LiquidInformation objects, now it will only use 24. * Update config.yml.dist * Update config.yml.dist * Man Brewnall Village with Mountaineers. #1149 * Update updates.sql * Update updates.sql * Fix set_move_flag. Fix set_move_flag always broadcasting a hearbeat even if the flag did not actually changed, fixes weird movement specially when units are running. e.g. Fluffy 1352, the script constantly sets running flag ON. * Update UnitManager.py * Update updates.sql
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Concerning 'Man Brewnall Village with Mountaineers', it's already implemented and should be tagged as 'Completed' |
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Same for 'Spawn an NPC' and 'Operation Recombobulation' |
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I have already been notified about this by @devw4r. I haven't tagged it, yet, because I always check if and how those things work after a fix in case something needs to be modifiex/changed. |
* add db changes * change constraint lvl to 255 * change lvl 90 for sw royal guard * change movement type for a zf mob * add honor guard * correct z for nata * despawn go at wpl entrance * despawn tarren mill guard at alterac valley entrance * despawn hammerfall guard arathi bassin entrance * dworf to trogg at ulda entrance * change boarmodel related to #1149 * fix crash #1289 * remove id from area_id * add ph for named human casters * closes #1288 * typo * partial #1227 * partial #695 Mull pos * closes #589 * closes #621 * another forgotten ulda dwarf * fix darnassus guards at bank * forgot zf wp for a mob * add waypoints for berthe et evalyn * remove flying signs at desolace entrance * make berte and evalyn run * remove db names
More than 1000 reviewed screenshots. Let's go:
Coldridge Valley
Grelin Whitebeard should wield [Monster - Staff, Crooked]
Apprentice Soren should wield [Monster - Torch] (The only main hand torch in the database)
Source (from 0.5.5)
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/Images/Azeroth/Eastern%20Kingdoms/Dun%20Morogh/wowbeta_031904_013a_1079752631.jpg | 0f1f7f8f01030003
The Stolen Journal should award 550 experience.
Source (from 0.5.5)
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/Images/Azeroth/Eastern%20Kingdoms/Dun%20Morogh/wowbeta_031904_015.jpg | 3b1b1f1f0300e002
Grik'nir should use Frostmane Strenght and Fire Ward
Reasoning - The full name of Fire Ward is obstructed, But it's Fire Ward because:
Sources
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/Images/Azeroth/Eastern%20Kingdoms/Dun%20Morogh/wowbeta_031904_010a_1079752630.jpg (0.5.5)
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/Images/Azeroth/Eastern%20Kingdoms/Dun%20Morogh/29%20June%20%20%20-%2057.jpg (0.7)
Map: 0
InstanceIC: 0
Zone: 132
ADT: [44.31]
X: -6525.340
Y: 362.189
Z: 388.363
MapZ: Invalid
O: 3.546
Reasoning - Battered chest because all chests in this lvl range are battered.
Source
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/UNSORTED/from_alpha_archive_19122022_and_koaworld/WoWBeta_Treasureloot.jpg
Solm Hargrin's location should be swapped with Alamar Grimm's position.
Source (from 0.5.5)
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/Images/Azeroth/Eastern%20Kingdoms/Dun%20Morogh/WoWScrnShot_032004_135746.jpg | 8701039b195fe7ff
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/Images/Azeroth/Eastern%20Kingdoms/Dun%20Morogh/534914_20040318_screen016.jpg | 0c0705590027ff1f
Frostmane Troll Whelps
should run away in fear when on low hp.
Source (from 0.5.5)
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/Images/Azeroth/Eastern%20Kingdoms/Dun%20Morogh/wow_031804_022.jpg
Coldridge Mail Delivery should award only 10 experience.
Source (from 0.5.5)
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/Images/Azeroth/Eastern%20Kingdoms/Dun%20Morogh/wowbeta_031904_004a_1079752628.jpg
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/Images/Azeroth/Eastern%20Kingdoms/Dun%20Morogh/wowbeta_031904_000.jpg
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/Images/Miscellaneous/Interface/24.jpg - in later patch it was changed to 15, but still not 190 as it is now, which is the same as the 1.12.1 value from wowhead.
Senir's Observations should award only 110 exp. This is a common theme of "fetch quests" awarding very little experience in the earliest patches.
Source
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/Images/Azeroth/Eastern%20Kingdoms/Dun%20Morogh/images_WoWScrnShot_030304_191100.jpg
Senir's Observations should award 220 experience.
Source (from 0.5.5)
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/Images/Azeroth/Eastern%20Kingdoms/Dun%20Morogh/wowbeta_031904_020a_1079752632.jpg
Crag Boars and Large Crag Boars shoud use Boar Charge
Speculation - Most likely other types of crag boars found in Dun Morogh use this ability aswell, however I wouldn't like to make changes based on guesses.
Source (from 0.5.5)
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/Images/Azeroth/Eastern%20Kingdoms/Dun%20Morogh/wow_041304_000.jpg
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/Images/Azeroth/Eastern%20Kingdoms/Dun%20Morogh/wowbeta_031904_020.jpg
Winter Wolves should use Furious Howl.
Source (from 0.5.5)
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/Images/Azeroth/Eastern%20Kingdoms/Dun%20Morogh/holy%20ward.jpg
Map: 0
InstanceID: 0
Zone: 131
ADT: [42,33]
X: -5605.147
Y: -534.219
Z: 399.651
MapZ: Invalid
O: 1.117
Source (from 0.5.5)
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/Images/Azeroth/Eastern%20Kingdoms/Dun%20Morogh/images_1609.jpg | c8802d3f5f23f8ff
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/UNSORTED/from_alpha_archive_19122022_and_koaworld/item_burntleathervest.jpg | be0c3d190bc3c2c3
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/Images/Azeroth/Eastern%20Kingdoms/Dun%20Morogh/wowbeta_031904_020a_1079752632.jpg | 2000381899fcfedb
Guard 1
SpawnID: 136
Guid: 81
Entry: 5595
Guard 2
SpawnID: 141
Guid: 85
Entry:5595
Guard 3
SpawnID: 142
Guid: 86
Entry: 5595
Guard 4
SpawnID: 132
Guid: 77
Guard 5
SpawnID: 138
Guid: 82
Guard 6
-SpawnID: 133
Guid: 78
SPECULATION - It seems, that Blizzard initially planned Ironforge Mountaineers to be the exterior troops, while Ironforge Guards being the interior troops (the 0.5.5 screenshots show, that the first IF guards appear after the large stairs behind the gate, where players can turn lurn either left or right). That would mean, that the 2 guards not present in screenshots
Guard 7
SpawnID: 139
Guid: 83
Guard 8
SpawnID: 135
Guid: 80
Should be changed aswell, but as always it is up to Grender.
Source (0.5.5)
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/Images/Azeroth/Eastern%20Kingdoms/Dun%20Morogh/534914_20040319_screen028.jpg
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/Images/Azeroth/Eastern%20Kingdoms/Dun%20Morogh/0408_image028.jpg
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/Images/Azeroth/Eastern%20Kingdoms/Dun%20Morogh/WoWScrnShot_032204_010922.jpg
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/Images/Azeroth/Eastern%20Kingdoms/Dun%20Morogh/wowpileon_033104_029-791387.jpg
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/Images/Azeroth/Eastern%20Kingdoms/Dun%20Morogh/world-of-warcraft-ss101091530907043_1083037.jpg
Ironforge Mountaineer should have dynamic lvl - screenshots show them with lvl 18 and 22. Lets set it as Min_lvl and Max_LvL and expand if more screenshots come.
Source (from 0.5.5)
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/Images/Azeroth/Eastern%20Kingdoms/Dun%20Morogh/WoWScrnShot_032204_010922.jpg
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/Images/Azeroth/Eastern%20Kingdoms/Dun%20Morogh/0408_image055.jpg
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/Images/Azeroth/Eastern%20Kingdoms/Dun%20Morogh/dd7.jpg
Frostmane hold should award 750 experience.
Source (0.5.5 or 0.6)
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/Images/Azeroth/Eastern%20Kingdoms/Dun%20Morogh/images_4809.jpg
A Favour for Evershine should award 600 experience.
Source (0.5.5 or 0.6)
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/Images/Azeroth/Eastern%20Kingdoms/Dun%20Morogh/images_4791.jpg
Source (0.5.5 or 0.6)
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/Images/Azeroth/Eastern%20Kingdoms/Dun%20Morogh/images_5002.jpg
There are screenshots from the same patch, where Kazan Mogosh
and Cook Ghilm are in different places.
SPECULATION - It may be an event in which the two meet, the cook chops some meat and places a Turkey Leg object on top of the cauldron.
Sources (from 0.5.5)
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/Images/Azeroth/Eastern%20Kingdoms/Dun%20Morogh/46342233.jpg
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/UNSORTED/from_alpha_archive_19122022_and_koaworld/item_guardianpants.jpg
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/UNSORTED/from_alpha_archive_10042023/demolishman_014.jpg
A Pilot's Revenge should award 575 experience.
Source (from 0.5.5 or 0.6)
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/Images/Azeroth/Eastern%20Kingdoms/Dun%20Morogh/images_4904.jpg
Vagash should be lvl 12
Source (0.5.5)
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/Images/Azeroth/Eastern%20Kingdoms/Dun%20Morogh/Dun%20MoroghProtect_the_Herd_quest_Protect_08.jpg
Evershine should award 170 experience.
Source (0.5.5 or 0.6)
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/Images/Azeroth/Eastern%20Kingdoms/Dun%20Morogh/images_4775.jpg
Kerik Firebeard and Fulgar Iceforge should be changed to lvl 65
Source (from 0.5.5)
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/Images/Azeroth/Eastern%20Kingdoms/Dun%20Morogh/WoWScrnShot_032004_163721.jpg
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/Images/Azeroth/Eastern%20Kingdoms/Dun%20Morogh/wowbeta_031904_023a_1079752636.jpg
Source (0.5.5)
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/Images/Azeroth/Eastern%20Kingdoms/Dun%20Morogh/images_1611.jpg
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/Images/Azeroth/Eastern%20Kingdoms/Dun%20Morogh/Begging%20Quest%20Lady.jpg
Barkeep Belm shouldn't sell Moonberry Juice and Soft Banana Bread
Source (0.5.5)
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/UNSORTED/from_alpha_archive_19122022_and_koaworld/item_burntleathervest.jpg
Source (0.5.5)
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/Images/Azeroth/Eastern%20Kingdoms/Dun%20Morogh/wowscrnshot_031904_085930.jpg
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/Images/Azeroth/Eastern%20Kingdoms/Dun%20Morogh/images_4670.jpg
Spawn 2 (at least for now) Ironforge Mountaineers.
Spawn 1 (most likely immobile)
Map: 0
InstanceID: 0
Zone: 137
ADT: [42.31]
X: -5381.295
Y: 296.430
Z: 393.735
O: 0.772
Spawn 2 (mobile, most likely doing laps around the village)
Accurate waypoint data are impossible to gather from 2 screenshots of it that we have. Perhaps Grender could greenlight an arbitrary set of waypoints to finish this task if no new screenshots appear.
Source (from 0.5.5 and 0.5.4)
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/Images/Azeroth/Eastern%20Kingdoms/Dun%20Morogh/mars2004-12.jpg
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/Images/Azeroth/Eastern%20Kingdoms/Dun%20Morogh/images_4775.jpg
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/Images/Azeroth/Eastern%20Kingdoms/Dun%20Morogh/images_4790.jpg
Keeg Gibn should have a subname
Source (from 0.5.4)
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/Images/Azeroth/Eastern%20Kingdoms/Dun%20Morogh/mars2004-12.jpg
Operation Recombobulation should award 1150 experience.
Source (0.5.5)
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/UNSORTED/from_alpha_archive_website_02043022/wow2p6.png
Roetten Stonehammer is currently invisible, even though we can copy coordinates from the database and teleport to his exact position. He has a DisplayID and was present like that in 0.5.5
Source (0.5.5)
https://db.thealphaproject.eu/index.php?action=show_creature&id=5637&filter=roetten&sort_order=name&pos=1&max=1
Spawn a White Ram at the follwoing coordinates:
Map: 0
InstanceID: 0
Zone: 1
ADT: [42.34]
X: -5540.217
Y: -1336.507
Z: 398.664
O: 2.642
SPECULATION - I would also advise changing all of the rams at the ranch into wandering mode to create some sort of life in that place. Currently the rams are just standing and looking a mountain.
Source (0.5.5)
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/Images/Azeroth/Eastern%20Kingdoms/Dun%20Morogh/Ram2.jpg
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/UNSORTED/from_alpha_archive_10042023/demolishman_012.jpg
Ironforge Guards should be lvl 90
Source (0.5.5)
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/Images/Azeroth/Cities/Ironforge/WoWScrnShot_032004_163627.jpg
SPECULATION - perhaps all NPCs from downstairs were moved by Blizzard because of problem with elevators causing deaths by incorrect interpretation of falling damage.
Nevertheless it is our earliest screenshot which makes it the most valuable when it comes to genuine data. His position should be:
Map: 0
InstanceIC: 0
Zone: 1
ADT: [40,34]
X: -4704.041
Y: -1091.831
Z: 492.818
MapZ: Invalid
O: 3.018
Relocate Brombar Higgleby to
Map: 0
InstanceId: 0
Zone: 1
ADT: [40,34]
X: -4706.203
Y: -1087.979
Z: 492.178
MapZ: Invalid
O: 3.746
Spawn two Ironforge Guards at Magni's sides.
Guard 1
Map: 0
InstanceID: 0
Zone: 1
ADT: [40.34]
X: -4705.817
Y: -1086.335
Z: 492.178
MapZ: Invalid
O: 3.124
Guard 2
Map: 0
InstanceID: 0
Zone: 1
ADT: [40,34]
X: -4706.472
Y: -1097.166
Z: 492.178
MapZ: Invalid
O: 3.043
Source ().5.5)
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/UNSORTED/from_alpha_archive_10042023/demolishman_037.jpg
Source (0.5.5)
https://db.thealphaproject.eu/index.php?action=show_creature&id=5174&filter=fizzlegear&sort_order=name&pos=1&max=1
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/Images/Azeroth/Cities/Ironforge/world-of-warcraft-ss.jpg
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/Images/Azeroth/Cities/Ironforge/images_4112.jpg
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/UNSORTED/from_alpha_archive_10042023/demolishman_039.jpg
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/UNSORTED/from_alpha_archive_19122022_and_koaworld/item_leggins_plusbank.jpg
Knowledge in the Deeps mentions Blackfathom Deeps being in Darkshore (where it was originally). Our database has the vanilla version, where it has already been moved to Ashenvale to allow easier access for both factions. Change "Ashenvale" to "Darkshore" and it's done.
Source (0.5.5)
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/UNSORTED/from_alpha_archive_19122022_and_koaworld/elitequest.jpg
Frostmane Seersshould use Lightning Shield.
Source (0.5.5)
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/UNSORTED/from_alpha_archive_10042023/demolishman_032.jpg
Map: 0
InstanceID: 0
Zone: 1
ADT: [40,34]
X: -4605.064
Y: -1085. 849
Z: 449.043
MapZ: Invalid
O: 2.264
Source (0.5.5)
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/UNSORTED/from_alpha_archive_10042023/demolishman_036.jpg
Kreg Bilmn should sell Unlit Poor Torches
Source (0.5.5)
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/UNSORTED/from_alpha_archive_10042023/demolishman_020.jpg
The Reports should award 575 experience.
Source (0.5.5)
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/UNSORTED/from_alpha_archive_10042023/demolishman_036.jpg
Fizzlebang Booms should be renamed Fizzlebang Sparks.
Source (0.5.5)
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/Images/Azeroth/Cities/Ironforge/images_1340.jpg
Bretta Goldfury should have a DisplayID of 3077, the same as Skolmin Goldfury.
Source (0.5.5)
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/Images/Azeroth/Cities/Ironforge/94.jpg
Report to Ironforge should award 490 experience.
Source (0.5.5)
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/Images/Azeroth/Cities/Ironforge/images_3735.jpg
Relocate Hall of Arms trainers
Move Daera Brightspear to
Map: 0
InstanceID: 0
Zone: 1
ADT: [41,34]
X: -5045.593
Y: -1266.671
Z: 528.520
MapZ: Invalid
O: 5.429
Move Muren Stormpike to
Map: 0
InstanceID: 0
Zone: 1
ADT: [41,34]
X: -5045.997
Y: -1272.557
Z: 528.520
MapZ: Invalid
O: 0.726
Source (0.5.5)
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/Images/Azeroth/Cities/Ironforge/WoWScrnShot_032004_181337.jpg
Ironforge Mountaineersshould use Shoot ability
SPECULATION - I'm not sure if it was done on purpose for some cool-looking set-pieces, but all screenshots of IF Mountaineers using this ability result in mobs evading those shots.
Source (0.5.5 or 0.6)
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/Images/Azeroth/Eastern%20Kingdoms/Dun%20Morogh/images_4898.jpg
Peria Lamenur and her Tamed Cat should be lvl 50.
Source (0.5.5)
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/Images/Azeroth/Eastern%20Kingdoms/Dun%20Morogh/week1_323_12.jpg
Hegnar Rumbleshot was in Kharanos prior to adding a questline for him. He should be moved to:
Map: 0
InstanceID: 0
Zone: 131
ADT: [42,32]
X: -5652.914
Y: 495.150
Z: 396.710
MapZ: 396.680
O: 1.901
Source (0.5.5)
https://archive.thealphaproject.eu/media/Alpha-Project-Archive/UNSORTED/from_alpha_archive_19122022_and_koaworld/item_burntleather.jpg
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